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Well, the definition of a "vegetarian" varies, but for most Americans the word alone simply means "no flesh"
There is lacto (dairy), and ovo (egg) vegetarian. There is strict vegetarian- which is a dietary vegan. Why do you feel that way about eggs in particular? The eggs sold are not fertilized. This forum recognizes lacto/ovo vegetarians |
What are your reasons for saying that? Most if not all definitions of vegetarian agree that eggs can be eaten. Vegans do not, of course.
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this forum? Are you the forum expert in all things?
vegetarians don't eat eggs, which represent a chicken fetus. that's why it's called an 'egg', and not, say, a flower. they drink milk, which is actually nourishing. sorry, but you'll have to read a little more, or obtain some additional understanding. maybe refrain from eating eggs, you'll develop more clarity of thought, and I'm not being facetious. |
I'm not a moderator here, but do know the forums terms. You have violated those terms.
You've also posted misinformation. An unfertilized egg is not a fetus of any kind. That would be like a woman having a miscarriage every month. Get some education, you'll develop more clarity of thought, and maybe learn to read about a forums regulations before agreeing to the membership rules. You will be hearing from a forum "expert", or as we call "moderator" soon enough. |
You became a member here, and I while I do feel the terms of service aren't all that user friendly, you will find "Types of Vegetarians/Vegans" right on the home page. It clearly states that vegetarians can eat dairy and egg.
Since you've posted an inflammatory thread on the vegetarian forum, it can and should be removed. What is point here? Since you've singled out eggs I would assume you consume dairy? Want to take that up in the vegan forum? |
reasons? Do I need a reason not to eat a chicken fetus? it's called an egg for a reason, and not some other 'thing', like chicken lettuce.
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An unfertilized egg, which is what people eat, is not a chicken fetus and will never grow into a chicken fetus because it hasn't been fertilized. And even if the egg had been fertilized, it wouldn't be a chicken fetus when the egg drops instead it would be a chicken embryo. An embryo is just a mass of cells, it can't feel, suffer, etc..........so by means the same as an actual chicken.
As such eggs are vegetarian, you don't need to kill chickens to produce eggs. |
I think he is a new vegan and experiencing cognitive dissonance.
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Of course there is, as I just explained eggs aren't "chicken fetuses" and you don't need to kill any chickens to produce eggs.
But if you don't want to eat eggs, well, don't eat eggs. And I really don't care what you call me, that has no impact on anything. |
excuse me, but please explain what a 'vegetarian' egg is, because I'll be honest with you, it's one of the stupidest terms I've ever heard, and I'm not kidding, really.
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milk is bad
that's why mothers breastfeed their kids I don't see moms feeding their newborns eggs naw, raw milk is actually nourishing. sorry to disappoint you... |
Vegetarianism is a word that was probably adapted by westerners (I'm one, btw) to indicate that they were following a satvik way of life, or diet.
Satvik is a term used by easterners who follow the teachings of saints and mahatmas, all who explain that higher levels of consciousness can be achieved, but that this process requires a foundation called satvik living, a big part of which is a diet of fruits, grains, milk, vegetables, legumes etc, but no dead animal products. So westerners drawn to the teachings of living saints don't call themselves 'satviks', they call themselves vegetarians. That's one explanation for the word vegetarian itself. It has meaning - to follow a lifestyle that serves as the foundation for higher mental and spiritual achievements. Eggs, animal rennet, and other dead animal products prevent this 'evolution' of conscious from happening, according to these teachers. That's why the saints and mahatmas tell us these things, not because they have nothing better to do. But anyone really interested in truth, in understanding, in the process of 'know thyself' will intuitively understand this. No one has to tell them, they just start living a vegetarian life. They do it because they know it's the right thing to do, if they want to develop their 'self' or personhood. The egg thing, it's so old hat really. |
No matter the etymology (According to Wikipedia the origin of the word "vegetarian" is the word "vegetable", but as I said, the origin is not important here), a word has the meaning it's given. The word "vegetarian" is used to define a diet that does not include dead flesh. This is the meaning you will find in any dictionary, and it is what most people mean when they say "vegetarian". Eggs are not dead flesh, thus (as Logic so beautifully explained) they are vegetarian. The prefix "lacto-ovo" is used to clarify, since there are vegetarian diets that do not include eggs or dairy.
The fact that milk contains many nutrients does not make it morally acceptable. Eggs and all sorts of meat can be healthy too, even though the production cause unfathomable amounts of suffering. Perhaps this isn't relevant, but as a personal decision I do eat both eggs and dairy (mostly organic, free-range), because I still live with my parents and life is complicated enough as it is. It also seems to me that these products cause LESS suffering than, say, pork. |
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