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#1 Old 09-01-2011, 09:53 AM
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Recent news of a porn performer (sorry, but they aren't 'actors'!) testing positive for AIDS has added fuel to the fire of the campaign by AIDS Healthcare to let Los Angeles vote next year on whether or not to require porn performers to wear condoms during productions in L.A.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/233662.php

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...-campaign.html

Not sure what wearing condoms has to do with free speech?

I am always shocked at how no one wears condoms in the majority of porn clips and movies (hetero). There are more occurrences of condom wearing in gay porn (guys only of course ), but even then its still not standard.
A lot of people learn from porn whether they realize it or not, adding condom putting on scenes and making it seem really sexy and hot is what it should be in these movies!
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Maybe they would set a good example?

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I think it's just like in the (private) bedroom, it's up to the performers to decide whether or not they want to wear them. I've heard a lot of people comment on this saying they wouldn't watch these movies as they take away from the fantasy part of watching porn. If the performers want to take a risk, that's up to them.
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Maybe they would set a good example?

or course they would set a great example by wearing condoms while having sex. everyone needs to wear a condom if they are having sex with more than one partner. seeing this happen in porn would promote wearing condoms, and they can show it as a sexy part of foreplay and make it seem desirable to wear them.

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I've heard a lot of people comment on this saying they wouldn't watch these movies as they take away from the fantasy part of watching porn. If the performers want to take a risk, that's up to them.

fantasy?!? sex w/o a condom is more like a nightmare!

its up to the MEN to wear condoms, women in porn rarely get a say in whether or not the guy wears a condom, especially when the directors and producers do not allow it:
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"In my time in the industry, I was forced to work on a mostly male porn set in private mansions where condoms were not allowed.”

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/04/prweb5240044.htm

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“At present, animals working in film & TV productions in Los Angeles enjoy more safety and health protections than adult film performers do. There are laws and state statutes to protect adult performers—but there is no real enforcement. Fair is fair: these performers deserve the health and safety protections already afforded them under existing law.”

http://thepinkcross.org/ex-porn-star...tive-only-fair
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(sorry, but they aren't 'actors'!)

Apparently you haven't seen such cinematic classics as Forest Hump, Saturday Night Beaver or Schindler's Fist .
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Apparently you haven't seen such cinematic classics as Forest Hump, Saturday Night Beaver or Schindler's Fist .

I have not seen any, but I have to say those titles made me laugh pretty hard here for a second or two..
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Ugh, porn is such a messed up industry. It really needs to be more strictly regulated

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fantasy?!? sex w/o a condom is more like a nightmare!

its up to the MEN to wear condoms, women in porn rarely get a say in whether or not the guy wears a condom, especially when the directors and producers do not allow it:
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/04/prweb5240044.htm

Not if you're in a committed relationship.

The woman has a choice, she can say no to the job. She can put it in her contract that she won't have a scene without a condom. From your quote, unless she was raped, she wasn't forced.
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Apparently you haven't seen such cinematic classics as Forest Hump, Saturday Night Beaver or Schindler's Fist .

Don't forget the 2 X-Files pornos.
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I thought porn stars are required to wear condoms. I thought that the ones who didn't were small time studios who just breaking the law.
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Not if you're in a committed relationship.

The woman has a choice, she can say no to the job. She can put it in her contract that she won't have a scene without a condom. From your quote, unless she was raped, she wasn't forced.


Im pretty sure that most of the performers in porn are not in committed relationships with the people they are having sex with, and since they have sex for their jobs even if they are in a committed relationship with another person they are still having sex with multiple partners. when you have multiple partners condoms should always be used.

Women performers do have a choice, however when they make the choice to require partners to wear condoms they diminish their chances of getting hired and not getting paid. so if they want to make money and be a pornstar they pretty dont have a choice.
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Not if you're in a committed relationship.

*chuckles* Yeah, cuz lots of the paper-thin plots of porn movies involve people in committed relationships.

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I thought porn stars are required to wear condoms. I thought that the ones who didn't were small time studios who just breaking the law.

they are supposed to but almost all major studios do not follow the rules. otherwise why else would vivid and other large studios stop all productions when the news hit that a performer contracted AIDS?

the main problem is that there has not been an efficient way to enforce the condom requirement. when companies are cited for not using condoms the fines are calculated as part of production and not nearly high enough to deter them from continuing.
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Im pretty sure that most of the performers in porn are not in committed relationships with the people they are having sex with, and since they have sex for their jobs even if they are in a committed relationship with another person they are still having sex with multiple partners. when you have multiple partners condoms should always be used.

Women performers do have a choice, however when they make the choice to require partners to wear condoms they diminish their chances of getting hired and not getting paid. so if they want to make money and be a pornstar they pretty dont have a choice.

I know, but not all people watching porn think of it like that. Watching a porno without condoms does NOT make the average person think "Hey, they're not wearing condoms, so I shouldn't." If anything, it would take the demand and jobs from California and place them where it's not illegal to make porn without condoms.

No, they have a choice. Statistically, the odds of contracting a serious non-curable disease in the porn industry is low. Seems like a higher percentage of non-porn stars contract STD's.

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*chuckles* Yeah, cuz lots of the paper-thin plots of porn movies involve people in committed relationships.

You watch porn with plots?
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Porn has a huge influence on how people have sex, especially guys. They see stuff in porn and wanna try it themselves, its normal. Quite silly to deny the influence porn has on the way people have sex, i know i personally have learned some good moves from watching porn, my boyfriend has too
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You watch porn with plots?

Yep. Y'know. Great stories like the hot pizza girl delivers in more ways than one>

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Porn has a huge influence on how people have sex, especially guys. They see stuff in porn and wanna try it themselves, its normal. Quite silly to deny the influence porn has on the way people have sex, i know i personally have learned some good moves from watching porn, my boyfriend has too

Wanting to duplicate what they see in porn when it's harmless (doesn't create children or pass STD's) is not the same. Trust me Watching people not use condoms in porn does not influence my decisions in my bedroom, most people I've talked to have said the same thing. I'm not a fan of banning things done by consenting adults anyway. I don't think mandating condoms will really help.

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Yep. Y'know. Great stories like the hot pizza girl delivers in more ways than one>

Weird
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Porn has a huge influence on how people have sex, especially guys. They see stuff in porn and wanna try it themselves, its normal.

I'm sorry, but people shouldn't be getting their sex ed from porn. Sure, you could learn some new moves to try or whatever, but porn should not be responsible for teaching people sexual health. A better strategy would be to have comprehensive sex ed taught in schools. If people are educated about the risks of not protecting themselves, they can make the decision for themselves to wear a condom or not, and they'd hopefully be able to tell the difference between porn (a fantasy) and real life. If someone is educated, and they still choose to engage in sex without a condom, I think it would be unlikely they'd start using one consistently and properly just because they saw it in porn.

I generally disagree with the idea that there should be less regulation on something just because the industry "might" move elsewhere; but in this instance, there is plenty of amateur porn and, I assume, porn from other countries, that is fairly easy to access. These wouldn't fall under regulations made on the studios in California.
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I think about the condom thing sometimes when I am watching porn myself.


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I like people to make their own decisions, whether it will harm them or not, it's all up to them. And i consider them actors, i would say amateur porn that is real is 'performing' but i saw a behind the scenes thing and they are acting, especially if there is a plot, none of it is real.
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First thing I thought when I read the headline (the AIDS and porn thing in the news) was "sounds like a reason for actual couples to do porn instead of companies"


An actual couple role-playing and recording would probably be far better than anything a company could do--and probably have more attractive people with looks and such that make it believable (as it would be real, only with a camera) than not....
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The woman has a choice, she can say no to the job. She can put it in her contract that she won't have a scene without a condom. From your quote, unless she was raped, she wasn't forced.



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Women performers do have a choice, however when they make the choice to require partners to wear condoms they diminish their chances of getting hired and not getting paid. so if they want to make money and be a pornstar they pretty dont have a choice.

That's still a choice. Make lots of money being a porn star, or have a contract that requires condoms and maybe make less money. I don't see how being a porn star is any kind of guarantee to making money. Or I guess they could get a different job.
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Apparently you haven't seen such cinematic classics as Forest Hump, Saturday Night Beaver or Schindler's Fist .

My ideal job would be to come up with porn movie titles all day.
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Condiments should be required by law in all porn. Mustard, Ketchup, pickle relish, always within reach.
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Condiments should be required by law in all porn. Mustard, Ketchup, pickle relish, always within reach.

Awesome! With lots of pickles.

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I'm sorry, but people shouldn't be getting their sex ed from porn. Sure, you could learn some new moves to try or whatever, but porn should not be responsible for teaching people sexual health. A better strategy would be to have comprehensive sex ed taught in schools. If people are educated about the risks of not protecting themselves, they can make the decision for themselves to wear a condom or not, and they'd hopefully be able to tell the difference between porn (a fantasy) and real life. If someone is educated, and they still choose to engage in sex without a condom, I think it would be unlikely they'd start using one consistently and properly just because they saw it in porn.

I generally disagree with the idea that there should be less regulation on something just because the industry "might" move elsewhere; but in this instance, there is plenty of amateur porn and, I assume, porn from other countries, that is fairly easy to access. These wouldn't fall under regulations made on the studios in California.

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I like people to make their own decisions, whether it will harm them or not, it's all up to them. And i consider them actors, i would say amateur porn that is real is 'performing' but i saw a behind the scenes thing and they are acting, especially if there is a plot, none of it is real.



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First thing I thought when I read the headline (the AIDS and porn thing in the news) was "sounds like a reason for actual couples to do porn instead of companies"

Bf and I joke that we're going to start our own site.

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Condiments should be required by law in all porn. Mustard, Ketchup, pickle relish, always within reach.

"Excuse me Sir, I only have condiments and a buns, do you happen to have any wieners lying around that I could have?" *cue cheesy porno music*
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I am always shocked at how no one wears condoms in the majority of porn clips and movies

Most productions from major studios (Vivid,Private,Hustler,VCA, etc ...) use condoms. Or at least they did as of a few years ago when I worked in a store with an adult section.

Movies with bareback scenes (no condoms) are rare enough (again I'm talking of major producers) to warrant a big colorful "No Condoms!" blurb on the box.

Part of the confusion comes from the enormous number of smaller companies feeding internet sites with content. There are maybe 10-15 companies producing vids you can find in actual brick and mortar stores, maybe a few hundred that create scenes for the web. The smaller ones don't necessarily pay much attention to the health of performers. The big studios function much like the old Hollywood studio system.

EDIT: Vivid was formerly a mandatory condom shop, but they now suggest it rather than require it. So apparently the industry HAS changed since I worked in the store with an adult section. I didn't check VCA and Wicked (also condom use mandatory shops back then) because googling 'condom use' started to feel creepy.

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Bf and I joke that we're going to start our own site.

Funny we have joked about that also.

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I mean, if the money's good....


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