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#1 Old 03-08-2011, 04:36 AM
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He gave a speech last week at one of the local colleges. According to the local paper, he made $200,000 for a 2-hour speech. Does anyone else find this absolutely ridiculous?
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That's a lot of money but he is one of only 5 living U.S Presidents so the pool of similiar applicants is a little limited.
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Doesn't bother me, he can earn his money any way he wants. And for all we know, he might donate all or part of it to charity.

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It's a substantial payment, but all things considered, I don't find it that ridiculous when in the corporate sector, some CEO's get paid several million dollars plus when they leave a company. Politics is paid poorly considering the amount of responsibility involved in the job, and seeing as Clinton was president of one of the most powerful countries in the world and in my opinion was the best president that the US has ever had, I think he deserves it.

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Yes, I think it's ridiculous, but Clinton getting a ridiculous amount of money from talking is no different from Lady Gaga getting a ridiculous amount of money for making whatever she is making: in either case, they're doing something anyone can do, but they get paid for it because they're celebs.

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Ridiculous? Yes. But still less ridiculous than Sarah Palin getting paid similar amounts.

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I'm often amazed at the money that can be thrown around. Like companies paying millions to have a sport arena with their name.

Yeah it's a bit crazy. That seems to be the world though. It amazes me people HAVE the money to throw around like that.
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i'm a bit surprised that he gets that little. paris hilton was charging more than that for personal appearances at one stage.
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It was at the University At Albany. Not exactly the most prestigious college so most people are likely middle class. The rich get richer while the poor and/or middle class have to suffer. I don't understand how anyone can think it's okay. We hear a lot of complaints about pro athletes making a lot of money, so Clinton should be held to the same standards.
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It's a substantial payment, but all things considered, I don't find it that ridiculous when in the corporate sector, some CEO's get paid several million dollars plus when they leave a company. Politics is paid poorly considering the amount of responsibility involved in the job, and seeing as Clinton was president of one of the most powerful countries in the world and in my opinion was the best president that the US has ever had, I think he deserves it.

The President can also order a terror bombing and not go to prison for it. They benefit in some ways and not in others. I don't mind them making more if they're held to the same rules all citizens in this country are. I believe Clinton was the one who lied under oath.
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Well, Reagan got $2 million for two speeches in Japan. Both Bushes get sizeable speaking fees. Any reason you're singling Clinton out?
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Yes, I think it's ridiculous, but Clinton getting a ridiculous amount of money from talking is no different from Lady Gaga getting a ridiculous amount of money for making whatever she is making: in either case, they're doing something anyone can do, but they get paid for it because they're celebs.

I don't know if this is a good comparison. Lady Gaga is a performer who has talent (arguable, but I believe so). She rights her songs and her videos. As with Clinton, I'm not even sure if he writes his own speeches.

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Well, Reagan got $2 million for two speeches in Japan. Both Bushes get sizeable speaking fees. Any reason you're singling Clinton out?

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He gave a speech last week at one of the local colleges. According to the local paper, he made $200,000 for a 2-hour speech. Does anyone else find this absolutely ridiculous?

That's how he's been making his living for the last 10 years.

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That's how he's been making his living for the last 10 years.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/2...speeches/list/

And this is what GWB had to say while he was still in office:

A NEW book out last week reported that President Bush wants to hop on the lecture circuit when he leaves office in 2009 — “replenish the ol’ coffers,” as he put it in Robert Draper’s account of his presidency, “Dead Certain.”




“I don’t know what my dad gets,” the president told Mr. Draper. “But it’s more than 50, 75” thousand dollars a speech. He added, “Clinton’s making a lot of money.”

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I don't know if this is a good comparison. Lady Gaga is a performer who has talent (arguable, but I believe so). She rights her songs and her videos. As with Clinton, I'm not even sure if he writes his own speeches.

What about Paris Hilton and 'Snookie' who get paid just as much to show up at a party and get schwasted?

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Carter and Clinton at least have been extremely active in humanitarian pursuits in their post presidential years. The same can't be said of the Bushes, other than senior's efforts with respect to tsunami relief. And I'll give Reagan a pass, since he was in the grip of Alzheimer's well before he left office.
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lolz @ "The Bushes".

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These people (politicians, pro athletes, actors, celebrities, Lady Gaga) get paid the money they do because fans are willing to pay it. When students at Washington University protested Bristol Palin's upcoming speech on abstinence, it got canceled. If the students at U of A don't want to hear Clinton speak I assume they are free to do the same, just like if people didn't like Lady Gaga they wouldn't buy her music. Even worthless celebrities like Paris Hilton are ultimately supported by the fans.
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These people (politicians, pro athletes, actors, celebrities, Lady Gaga) get paid the money they do because fans are willing to pay it. When students at Washington University protested Bristol Palin's upcoming speech on abstinence, it got canceled. If the students at U of A don't want to hear Clinton speak I assume they are free to do the same, just like if people didn't like Lady Gaga they wouldn't buy her music. Even worthless celebrities like Paris Hilton are ultimately supported by the fans.

Yup....if they can capitalize off of their popularity (Which is basically what Clinton, Gaga, Charlie Sheen, etc. all have in common), why not?

I know I'd sure as hell do it if I were more of a celebrity!

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I know I'd sure as hell do it if I were more of a celebrity!

Awww, you're a celebrity to us. We just can't afford to pay you!
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I don't know if this is a good comparison. Lady Gaga is a performer who has talent (arguable, but I believe so). She rights her songs and her videos. As with Clinton, I'm not even sure if he writes his own speeches.

I agree, but I'd say Gaga is considered a below average songwriter. I'm sure Clinton could do just as good of a job with his speeches if he wanted to write them as Gaga does with her songwriting.
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Well, Reagan got $2 million for two speeches in Japan. Both Bushes get sizeable speaking fees. Any reason you're singling Clinton out?

I haven't read much about the others and as far as I know they haven't come to the local area for a speech. It's been mentioned many times that Clinton demands $100,000 minimum for a speech. The media talks more about Clinton in this regard so I brought him up.
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I agree, but I'd say Gaga is considered a below average songwriter. I'm sure Clinton could do just as good of a job with his speeches if he wanted to write them as Gaga does with her songwriting.

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If he is being paid out of student fees, I would object. There are better ways tuition money could be applied to instruction.

I have no problem of any amount if it was coming from a single benefactor who was sponsoring the event, or a group of Clinton admirers (or Palin or Bush...) who were underwriting the appearance. As long as the supporters are spending THEIR OWN money, and not redirecting student money or money other donors gave because they thought it was going to go to education.

These types of events can benefit a university in the long run. They provide publicity to the campus (how many people had heard of this place before?), bring out alumni, elevate the status of the institution. It allows them to provide perks to their elite donors, such as meeting a former president.

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Yes, I think it's ridiculous, but Clinton getting a ridiculous amount of money from talking is no different from Lady Gaga getting a ridiculous amount of money for making whatever she is making: in either case, they're doing something anyone can do, but they get paid for it because they're celebs.

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