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#61 Old 01-28-2011, 01:56 PM
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Any word from Gaza? This is undoubtedly going to change their fortunes for better or worse.
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Gaza is still reeling from the release of the Palestine Papers, so i'm not sure what else is going on there besides that at the moment. that was infuriating enough as it is, but Al Jazeera says that Gaza is concerned that Egyptians will spill into Gaza leading to an invasion by Israel. which sounds even crazier once i say that outloud, if Israel made any moves against Egyptians in Gaza or Gaza at all while Egypt is in chaos right next door, it doesn't seem like there would be any stopping it.

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the death toll is somewhere around 25 between Suez, Cairo and Alexandria, and ~1100 injured according to medical sources

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I have repeatedly said that they need to make their own choices. I hope that it turns out well. My point is only that the starry eyed assumptions are perhaps naive. After all, a lot of the people who are all excited about this were equally excited about Iran just a year ago. But time will tell, so there's no point arguing.
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Mubarak's on Nile Television, or Al Jazeera feed.

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http://www.justin.tv/hoctoggle#/w/803083312/17

hosni is speaking

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He said the government has always taken the side of the poor. yeah.

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I have repeatedly said that they need to make their own choices. I hope that it turns out well. My point is only that the starry eyed assumptions are perhaps naive. After all, a lot of the people who are all excited about this were equally excited about Iran just a year ago. But time will tell, so there's no point arguing.

there is, and the difference is, is that someone did it. someone did what the western and arab world said that they wouldn't be able to do -- have a homegrown, peaceful, revolution and dissolve a government they didn't like.

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ETA: Oops, no he says the government is stepping down. Misunderstood the translation.
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****ing lol murabak wants 'the government' to resign, when all the egyptians want is YOU to resign, murabak

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no, he isn't resigning, he's firing everyone else but himself

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i think that should help

Not working. I tried to download the unstable version, but the link was corrupted. I can't find that file. Oh well, I tried.

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no, he isn't resigning, he's firing everyone else but himself

yeah. he said the government is stepping down and he's gonna elect a new one.

Interesting how he twisted things. Said protests were only able to happen because of political freedoms already existing in Egypt. Right.

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there is, and the difference is, is that someone did it. someone did what the western and arab world said that they wouldn't be able to do -- have a homegrown, peaceful, revolution and dissolve a government they didn't like.


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no, he isn't resigning, he's firing everyone else but himself

Yeah, I got it, I misheard the translator (or maybe wishful thinking).
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???

what's your question.

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Basically he said:
Egyptians, you’re hungry. I know. But we’re free. We’re becoming freer. Stop fighting from freedom. Stop fighting for food. My government is stepping down. New one tomorrow. I am not going anywhere. Instead, you get more of my “freedom.”

no one is observing the curfew, the army is on the people's side (but not the police force), but it's not likely that the police are going to open fire on people who break curfew.

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He's stepping down

ETA: Oops, no he says the government is stepping down. Misunderstood the translation.

I don't know if you meant that as a joke but in Muslim countries that is quite frequent. If the leader who is responsible for running the government fails some way, then its not because he isn't the right fit but because the government was not the right fit for the leader. go figure!

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I don't know if you meant that as a joke

No, no, no, he said "I am requesting the government to step down" and I heard, "I am by request of the government stepping down" or something like that. I'm multitasking here and was like, "wait what?"
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there is, and the difference is, is that someone did it. someone did what the western and arab world said that they wouldn't be able to do -- have a homegrown, peaceful, revolution and dissolve a government they didn't like.

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what's your question.

My question is - what peaceful revolution are you referring to?
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the OP Tunisia? the one that started this all? as far as all reports go, they haven't had any fatalities, and have managed to dissolve the government, and the interim government when it didn't go the way they wanted to.

there are solidarity demonstrations across the nation tomorrow

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Demonstrators will convene in front of CNN's downtown headquarters on Saturday at noon to show support for protesters, who are urging President Hosni Mubarak to step down.

Via the event's organizers:

A demonstration will be held on Saturday in downtown Atlanta in support of the brave Egyptian people who are fighting for their freedom, dignity, and rights. Organizers hope to show the Egyptian people that American people are behind their struggle. In addition, the protest aims to expose the dire situation in Egypt, and to encourage the U.S. media to expand their coverage of growing movements for freedom and democracy in North Africa.

eta: the suicide that kicked off the revolution in Tunisia could be considered a fatality -- a 27 year old man set himself on fire in the streets to protest the insane unemployment rate

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the OP Tunisia? the one that started this all? as far as all reports go, they haven't had any fatalities, and have managed to dissolve the government, and the interim government when it didn't go the way they wanted to.

eta: the suicide that kicked off the revolution in Tunisia could be considered a fatality -- a 27 year old man set himself on fire in the streets to protest the insane unemployment rate

Ah. O.K. I was confused, because the current posts were about Egypt and Iran, and neither fit the bill. I hope that things work out well in Tunisia, but it's still early to tell.

ETA: BTW, I gather there have been more than 100 fatalities during the Tunisian protests.
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ah, he didn't say anything important the usa is being very careful not to take sides, typical "we support democracy everywhere" speech.

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Ah. O.K. I was confused, because the current posts were about Egypt and Iran, and neither fit the bill. I hope that things work out well in Tunisia, but it's still early to tell.

ETA: BTW, I gather there have been more than 100 fatalities during the Tunisian protests.

where are you getting that number? Al Jazeera says "dozens set themselves on fire and dozens of others were injured or killed by riot police." which means absolutely nothing in terms of real solid numbers. that could be 24 or 144 people. the jasmine revolution wikipedia doesn't say anything either.

fwiw The Jasmine Revolution means Tunisia -- that's the official flower of Tunisia. perhaps you should read the OP first?

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ah, he didn't say anything important the usa is being very careful not to take sides, typical "we support democracy everywhere" speech.

Thanks, I had to take a phone call and missed it. They're all saying we support Mubarak and the Egyptian people. Hedging bets, don't want to come down on the wrong side of this one.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_815337.html

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hot damn!

http://www.businessinsider.com/glenn...p-smith-2011-1

fox news bumps glenn beck in order to cover egypt

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Fox almost never bumps Glenn Beck. So just one measure that the American news media has finally decided what Al Jazeera and many viewers have known for a day or more: This is a really big deal.


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where are you getting that number? Al Jazeera says "dozens set themselves on fire and dozens of others were injured or killed by riot police." which means absolutely nothing in terms of real solid numbers. that could be 24 or 144 people. the jasmine revolution wikipedia doesn't say anything either.

fwiw The Jasmine Revolution means Tunisia -- that's the official flower of Tunisia. perhaps you should read the OP first?

The UN says 100 dead in Tunisia. http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/af.../u.s..tunisia/

Strangely enough, I did read the OP, but we were eight pages in, and the conversation had long since migrated to Egypt. Why so snarky about having it pointed out that the original suicide wasn't the only fatality in Tunisia?

ETA: If you want another source for the UN statement: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...section=justin
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