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#61 Old 03-30-2010, 10:36 AM
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BAWK BAWK BAWK.





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#62 Old 03-30-2010, 10:54 AM
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I'm agreeing with Kellye on this one.
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#63 Old 03-30-2010, 11:12 AM
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the fact that you choose to see cooperating with the police & being polite with them when theyre making their inquiries in order to save your own arse from going to jail...



Wait, wut?



If I didn't do anything wrong, I should be able to stay out of jail.



The fact that police can and will threaten me with going to jail if I use my rights to refuse to talk to them is an indication that something is wrong with this country.
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#64 Old 03-30-2010, 11:31 AM
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'Til then, all I hear is BAWK BAWK BAWK.

All I hear from that source is some passive-aggressive lolcatspeak.

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Wait, wut?



If I didn't do anything wrong, I should be able to stay out of jail.



The fact that police can and will threaten me with going to jail if I use my rights to refuse to talk to them is an indication that something is wrong with this country.



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If I ever get thrown in jail for refusing to speak to the cops when it is well within my civil rights to do so, I will have a lawsuit through the ACLU in court before you can say "police state".



Refusal to talk to the police may be up for debate as to whether it's morally "right" or not (socially responsible), but the fact that it is a right is absolutely not.
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All I hear from that source is some passive-aggressive lolcatspeak.



Sure is nice on the eyes though.

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Sure is nice on the eyes though.

Speak for yourself buddy

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Speak for yourself buddy



as nice as you are on the eyes, buddy.

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in your part of the world, cops are often way to busy to be responding to calls about about some guy in a toilet block whos gonna be outta there before it even gets on their radio. they have to prioritise unfortunately, so some calls of a less concrete nature are gonna go unattended.

ive never had the cops not turn up when ive called them for anything & it always seems a little suss to me or like theres more to the story when some people like yourself complain of numerous incidences of them not attending.



Except in my town, when these incidents happened (before the corrupt officers were terminated) there was nothing going on -- officers were not busy, not rushing to go anywhere, and driving through the park would have put them maybe 10 seconds behind. After the corruption cleanup, you call the officers, and they not only show up within 3 minutes, they sit in the dark waiting to observe the problem, then they fly in with lights and everything.



And uh, call me weird, but a person getting beat up currently, or a potential pedophile kidnapper (as I said, they live around the park, arrested at the park, and some new ones were even put in prison recently [one was the one I called in about prior] stalking children at the moment seem to be a pretty high on the priority scale. Police are supposed to investigate incidents -- that's kind of, oh, their job. Getting a call of a person acting suspicious with video camera in the restrooms of a public place, needing only 10 seconds to check out -- not too much to ask they send someone.



I have no idea why you find it a little suspicious when you hear of people complaining of incidents where police do not do anything. Last time I knew, police were humans, sometimes corrupt, and sometimes on power trips. Nothing suspicious there--it's called common sense, yet problems that need taken care of.



Another time I called the police about something minor at the park (just called in a "just so you know") of people spray painting graffiti on a building (highly unusual in my area). A police car was dispatched to the park before the officer on the phone said "I am sending someone there now". Fortunately after the cleanup, things are better, but with the corruption graffiti was more of a priority than a potential child molester/abductor stalking children.
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Wait, wut?



If I didn't do anything wrong, I should be able to stay out of jail.





technically yeah, but its well known that if you get too mouthy with the cops & start verbally or physically abusing them or deliberately obstructing their enquiries in some way, you will get cuffed & taken to the cop station/precinct for processing.
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I have no idea why you find it a little suspicious when you hear of people complaining of incidents where police do not do anything. Last time I knew, police were humans, sometimes corrupt, and sometimes on power trips. Nothing suspicious there--it's called common sense, yet problems that need taken care of.



i get suss cuz a lot of people talk a lot of one eyed rubbish & exaggerations about law enforcement. im not trying to argue that theyre not slack sometimes about certain things or that they dont ever get on power trips, but it does strike me as unusual if every contact you have with the cops is negative.
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Here's the way I see it: if they can't tell me in very specific terms what they're investigating, I can't help them. If they can't be honest with me, I have no motivation to be honest with them. Any conversation I have with a cop (through a closed door) that leads to, "We are not at liberty to disclose that information," is going to earn a, "Well, good luck with your interrogations!" and an end to the discussion from me.



While there are some good cops, there is a lot of corruption in law enforcement because they simply aren't held accountable in the same way that your average citizen is. I've seen enough abuses of their authority to be wary of them. Over the last 30 years, the U.S. penal population increased from around 300,000 to more than two million - I don't feel obligated to help put anyone else behind bars, no matter what they've done, as long as it wasn't a violent crime.



Great post - and in general an excellent approach. Of course the cops could lie about what they're investigating - but i like the idea anyways because its a way of putting them on notice that yes - it does matter what crime it is.
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i get suss cuz a lot of people talk a lot of one eyed rubbish & exaggerations about law enforcement. im not trying to argue that theyre not slack sometimes about certain things or that they dont ever get on power trips, but it does strike me as unusual if every contact you have with the cops is negative.



I never said every -- those are like two out of maybe 50, although the response was odd considering. The others involved fairly quick responses (sometimes within minutes, once within 30 seconds of a call--and that one also had multiple cruisers showing up, with backup on the way "just in case"), or just a response within a time appropriate considering the potential problem.



For others, every may just happen due to their location, where they report the crime, their name, or even their ethnic group (based on voice or such). At the same time, if I walked into the police station to report something, I'd get a response almost immediately--knowing the officers, and the dispatchers (parents of classmates) helps though--of course this is now, and not when I was in high school like 15 years ago.
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as a minority, if i see a cop coming/around, i just get on my bike and book it. or if they are driving by my house, i do the polite thing and sound the alarm and whistle. i tell ya, one of the most iterrifying things ever is when you're standing on your stoop smoking a cigarette and you hear nothing but whistles coming from all sides. it tends to freak cops out as well, they drive faster out of the 'hood, whistles following them all the way.....

i've only been chased by a cop once, but he didn't catch me so it's all good.

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as a minority, if i see a cop coming/around, i just get on my bike and book it. or if they are driving by my house, i do the polite thing and sound the alarm and whistle. i tell ya, one of the most iterrifying things ever is when you're standing on your stoop smoking a cigarette and you hear nothing but whistles coming from all sides. it tends to freak cops out as well, they drive faster out of the 'hood, whistles following them all the way.....

i've only been chased by a cop once, but he didn't catch me so it's all good.



OK, sheltered white chick from the suburbs--what sort of whistle? It sounds like some sort of whistles would indicate "Warning, police in the area," and another whistle might not.

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Maybe it's like Meercats.



One whistle for cops, a different whistle for hawks.



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Maybe it's like Meercats.



One whistle for cops, a different whistle for hawks.






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I hope that none of you who will not answer police questions ever complain about failure to solve crimes/arrest criminals, violent or otherwise. I guess you don't actually see a role for police, other than if a crime happens to be committed within their sight.

if you ever have a problem with government you're probably some nonsensical anarchist libertarian and hate obama because you're racist.

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OK, sheltered white chick from the suburbs--what sort of whistle? It sounds like some sort of whistles would indicate "Warning, police in the area," and another whistle might not.



The theme from The Andy Griffith Show.
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OK, sheltered white chick from the suburbs--what sort of whistle? It sounds like some sort of whistles would indicate "Warning, police in the area," and another whistle might not.



They just whistle the backbeat to "**** Tha Police" by N.W.A.
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The theme from The Andy Griffith Show.



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They just whistle the backbeat to "**** Tha Police" by N.W.A.









You know, it's a real problem for me when I have no idea if the two of you are being serious or pulling my chain.

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Someone here posted this about a year ago, it's been my favorite video ever since. I like the tip about not having a woman in the car: "Kick his Mother ***ing @ss!"
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You know, it's a real problem for me when I have no idea if the two of you are being serious or pulling my chain.



For future reference, I am pulling anyone's given chain about 83% of the time.
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i'm going to guess that it doesn't really matter what kind of whistle, it's the way you whistle that's important.



i just watched both videos. very interesting stuff. i am generally very wary of police intentions any time they are asking questions. always, always polite, but i don't see a need to help anyone satisfy a power trip. if they have the evidence, let them arrest or get a warrant. otherwise, i don't want to play fishing games.



i'm considered a foreigner where i live. once, a nosey policeman came around asking me who i was and why i was parking my car on the side of the house. i told him we were cleaning out our garage, so i couldn't park in there. he was pretty pushy about wanting to see inside. but when i refused, he had to leave, because actually he had no reason to be looking around in there (much less asking me anything else). that kind of stuff really pisses me off. if they have reason to believe i have committed some crime, let them go through the system and get a warrant, let me answer appropriate questions in a place where i have a more equal footing. i don't have to answer fishing questions just because the police want me to and are used to getting their way.

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I have a huge distrust of the police (for reasons I don't feel like getting into detail now. PM if you want to know) I stay as far away from them as possible. If I get stopped at a roadblock, I will not answer their questions as I have been stopped for driving on a public road. I have not been suspected of committing a crime, therefore I do not feel that I have to answer their questions about where I live and what I am doing on that road. If they want to see my license and registration, they are welcome to. However I will not discuss my personal affairs with them.
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You know, it's a real problem for me when I have no idea if the two of you are being serious or pulling my chain.



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