Originally Posted by thefragile77
As a veg*n it upsets me that other people eat meat that is true.
However it is not my place to tell other people how to live.
So if you saw someone abusing their pets or their kids, you wouldn't feel you have the right to comment and tell them how to live? You would merely try to lead by example, and hope that you
not kicking dogs or beating kids with a belt would help those others to make changes?
If that is the case, then you are consistent but also highly irresponsible and an enabler of abuse. On the other hand, if that is not
the case, and you would feel the need to comment or interfere in some way in that kind of abuse, then you would have the appropriate response to violence, but you would be oh-so-selective in picking and choosing which kinds of values and ways of life deserve your objection and which do not.
That the exploitation of animals is distanced from the acts of the consumer does not make it any less any less violent and hurtful towards animals who get their throats cut or cannot turn around, and it does not make it any less deserving of objection than any other violence. To disguise moral cowardice and political passivity as "tolerance" would be a dishonesty, and any religious beliefs which have that as a consequence seem highly suspect to me.
I also defend anyone's right to have their own ethics which may or may not include eating meat.
What if someone's ethics include the idea that it's okay to take a belt and beat their kids into submission? I guess you would not "equate" that with meat-eating. Hell, I wouldn't either -- I'd rather be beaten with a belt than live my whole life in intense confinement and then be slaughtered -- but that does nothing to prevent me from having a strong objection to both practices.
Ultimately, all this talk about "it's not my right to comment on someone else's life choices" etc. comes down to the anthropocentric and hierarchical idea that "they're just animals".
I'll add that it would be a false dilemma to assume only two choices: 1) being completely passive about meat-eating 2) screaming "murderer!" to meat-eaters' faces. You can object to animal cruelty and express your moral values in various constructive and productive ways.