Originally Posted by rainforests1
I love how the OP says to leave humans out of this, but most members aren't doing that. Animals do what they have to do to survive. In an ideal world all animals would be herbivores, but that's just simply not the case.
Originally Posted by Beancounter
I'm not sure what you two mean by "but most members aren't doing that". No one is arguing against animals doing what they need to do to survive. But this doesn't negate the real struggle and pain that is experienced by them with their goal of survival.
Originally Posted by SomebodyElse
Thank you ajax. Its just a drop in the bucket though. Its not enough to make any real difference.
Well, I was hoping to make a more subtle point. Heh. The differences that a given person makes in the world are often very indirect, and therefore largely remain obscure. Who knows how many people you have caused to at least pause to consider their eating habits. Maybe most of these people will never significantly change those eating habits, but these same people may mention in passing, at some time, what they've heard about factory farms, for example. Maybe they bring it up only to ridicule those nutty veg*ns, but it's possible that just by broaching the subject others who hear may ultimately choose to learn more about AR. (I realize this will not relieve animal-to-animal predation, and parasitic relationships, in this world.)
I think we also need to consider that most people can
change. With enough education and self-reflection, they can begin that (oftentimes slow) process to a more compassionate life. I don't think we know enough about a person's every private thought to give up on her/him, or to become a full-time cynic. (Not saying you are one.) We must hope and believe that other people's eyes can be opened. Especially since we can occasionally see ourselves in them, even though they seem so profoundly different on the surface.
One of the best mottos for the animals in relation to humans is "our similarities are more significant than our differences". I have to hope that is true of our fellow humans as well.
(feel free to call me out for being overly presumptuous with the following...)
Finally, if the goodness that emanates from you survives bad moods, tears, outrage, then on some level you are acknowledging it as what makes this life worth living. Paradoxically, maybe there are times when you see it as something worth dying for. You couldn't imagine what your life would be without this fidelity to doing what is right. In a way, you pay your respects to something you think is more important than yourself every day of your life. This devotion is not all that different than religious worship.
And with that, I'm out (and ducking for cover).