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#1 Old 11-03-2007, 05:45 PM
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What is your concept of murder ? .



There seems to be so many different variables on the board of what murder is .



Do you look at it as a legal definition according to the Laws of your country ?



Some say abortion is not murder but view eating meat as murder .



Other's say abortion is murder .



Then others look at those that consume dairy products as murder .



Then some , it just comes down to taking a human life .



So feel free to post your personal views in a thread that you don't have to justify or debate what murder is .



Please remember this is a discussion thread only .



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#2 Old 11-03-2007, 05:55 PM
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I think I pretty much go with the definition of murder that you would find in a dictionary:

the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought.



So far I'm thinking murder and killing are two different things. I may add to this after I have more input from some of the other posters. But in simple terms, this is pretty much it.
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#3 Old 11-03-2007, 05:58 PM
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Killing a living person on purpose, does it have to be harder than that?



I'm pro-choice.
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#4 Old 11-03-2007, 06:00 PM
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This is VB....yes.
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#5 Old 11-03-2007, 06:03 PM
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I think I pretty much go with the definition of murder that you would find in a dictionary:

the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought. .



That's pretty close to my definition, too. However, there are forms of killing that, while they do not constitute murder as such, I do not view as either ethically or morally sound.

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Beat on the newbie!



I ment the same thing as you did, i just put it in fewer words, if you're in a fight and a person gets killed, it's not murder, if you stand next to a man allergic to peanuts and next you there's a giant tub of peanut butter, and you by accident fall into him pushing him into the delicious brown goo so he swells up and crokes it's not murder, abortion isn't murder.



Stabbing someone in the face, murder.



That's my opinion.
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Beat on the newbie!





Oops!! I'd never beat on you...I should have put a funny smiley or something...that was my feeble attempt at being funny!
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what karen says.



there is some killing that i find pretty just. (i.e. a man in missouri killed the man who had been raping his daughters for the past 5 years - that was proven in court with dna etc etc. he only got 5 years.)



but yeah, what karen said.

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Oops!! I'd never beat on you...I should have put a funny smiley or something...that was my feeble attempt at being funny!



It's ok, i'm a defensive person ^^.



(back topic we go then)
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Killing a living person on purpose, does it have to be harder than that?



It'd be kind of hard to kill a dead person.
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It'd be kind of hard to kill a dead person.



Yes, yes it would.
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Talk about beating on the newbie...



Marie is way funnier than I am!!
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#13 Old 11-03-2007, 07:33 PM
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Easy pessy guys ...the topic please
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if you're in a fight and a person gets killed, it's not murder,



I think that there have been murder convictions under the circumstances you describe.
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I think that there have been murder convictions under the circumstances you describe.



I don't see how that matters?



Rapist and murderers have been set free and innocent people have surely been given capital punishment too
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I don't see how that matters?





It matters because you said: 'if you're in a fight and a person gets killed, it's not murder,' which was a categorical statement and not necessarily true.

The truth will set you free.
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It matters because you said: 'if you're in a fight and a person gets killed, it's not murder,' which was a categorical statement and not true.

The truth will set you free.



Well i also said "that's my opinion"
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Easy peesy guys .....back to the original topic



So feel free to post your personal views in a thread that you don't have to justify or debate what murder is .



Please remember this is a discussion thread only .
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To me, murder is basically what Karen said (there are always exceptions, though, like protecting yourself or other people).



Abortion is murder.
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#20 Old 11-03-2007, 08:55 PM
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It's lunchtime and I could murder some rice and veggies!
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Although I might consider abortion murder, I wouldn't expect or want a news reader to say that a foetus had been murdered if it where aborted.

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One of the meanings of 'murder' is to express moral condemnation.

"and I stand

upon a mountain

made of weak and useless men"

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Someone ending anothers life is murder, but sometimes murder is acceptable. In abortion I think it is. But not with animals or people
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Someone ending anothers life is murder, but sometimes murder is acceptable. In abortion I think it is. But not with animals or people



How is it okay?



Abortion is something I don't understand... I remember this video called "The Silent Scream" (I believe that is what it was called) and it showed a fetus being aborted... When the blade came near the fetus, it recoiled, trying to escape, and opened it's mouth (hints the silent scream)...



Sometimes breeders of Dalmations 'get rid of' puppies with spots over a certain size because they are undesirable. As the puppies are being born, they are checked over for the large spots. If an unluckly puppy has one, they are dropped into a bucket of warm water. Basically, they are drowned and killed. Could you do that? No? Then how could you abort a fetus?



The only time I see abortion as okay is if the mother and baby's lives are in danger.
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