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View Poll Results: What is your household income?
Lowest Fifth: Less than $18,500 0 0%
Second Fifth: $18,500 - $34,738 0 0%
Middle Fifth: $34,738 - $55,331 0 0%
Fourth Fifth: $55,331 - $88,030 0 0%
Highest Fifth: More than $88,030 0 0%
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#31 Old 08-04-2006, 05:34 PM
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i dont know, this poll is a little funky. someone could live in the third and be alot worse off than i, because they have tons of kids or something.

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i dont know, this poll is a little funky. someone could live in the third and be alot worse off than i, because they have tons of kids or something.



you have to spend the money on something, even if it is retirement or charity. we all make different choices but income really determines what choices you have.
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That's a good point.
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2/5. Lower middle class. Pshaw. I make more money alone by myself than 28% of the households in the US. Word.
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i dont know, this poll is a little funky. someone could live in the third and be alot worse off than i, because they have tons of kids or something.



I totally agree with that. Kids are one of the biggest income eaters I know of.
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kids, and boats.



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2/5. Lower middle class. Pshaw. I make more money alone by myself than 28% of the households in the US. Word.



True but those aren't really two earner households. The mean number of wage earners in the lowest quintile is 0, for the second and third quintiles, 1 and for the fourth and fifth quintile 2. So number of earners in the household actually drives which income class you are in more than anything, including education. I believe only 12% of top quintile households have single wage earners so only about 2.4% of the population makes 88k or more as individuals.
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>>So number of earners in the household actually drives which income class you are in more than anything, including education.>>



If we assume quintiles as a good operationalization of class.

From other perspectives, it is useful to look at the top percentile or upper 5th, etc.



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>>So number of earners in the household actually drives which income class you are in more than anything, including education.>>



If we assume quintiles as a good operationalization of class.

From other perspectives, it is useful to look at the top percentile or upper 5th, etc.



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Not from the perspective of a veggieboards poll. I suppose there are a handful of upper 5th households represented here. I think that is somewhere in the ballpark of 140K but I doubt there are any top percentile households represented here.
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>>I doubt there are any top percentile households represented here.>>



Well, if we are completely ignorant of the relevant factors, we must assume that the chance is 1 in 100 that a particular voter is of the top percentile. As of now, 52 have voted.

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What I meant, is that I don't think quintiles are useful for looking at the capitalist class in comparison to other classes.



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I would be in that upper 5th if I still lived at home.

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I'm in the 4/5. But I have no children, i'm comfortable, I have more than I need, and I only work 24 hours a week.
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I'm in the 4/5. But I have no children, i'm comfortable, I have more than I need, and I only work 24 hours a week.





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I would be middle if I lived by myself but since I am married and my husband also makes a good income we are in the highest.
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I'm a little confused. First of all, if you are in a two-income household do you use the mean of the two incomes to determine which quintile you're in?



Also, doesn't geography matter? I mean, I live quite comfortably in Tucson, AZ and was able to buy a house with my modest income. I have friends in NY and CA, however, who make more than I do but their cost of living is much higher. My brother in CT paid at least 3 times the amount that I did for his house and the houses are similar in size. So someone in Middleofnowheresville in middle America could be "middle class" making the same amount as a poor person in San Francisco, no?
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>>Also, doesn't geography matter?>>



yes, it does. Statistics built out of income in comparison to some cost of living index are harder to find though.



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I'm a little confused. First of all, if you are in a two-income household do you use the mean of the two incomes to determine which quintile you're in?



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Also, doesn't geography matter? I mean, I live quite comfortably in Tucson, AZ and was able to buy a house with my modest income. I have friends in NY and CA, however, who make more than I do but their cost of living is much higher. My brother in CT paid at least 3 times the amount that I did for his house and the houses are similar in size. So someone in Middleofnowheresville in middle America could be "middle class" making the same amount as a poor person in San Francisco, no?



Thats another choice. For most people, populated coastal areas are more enjoyable to live in. That is reflected in the price.
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The sum/







Thats another choice. For most people, populated coastal areas are more enjoyable to live in. That is reflected in the price.





Many people are born poor or working class in NYC or L.A. They didn't choose to live there because they find coastal areas enjoyable to live in.
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Really? Because if it's the sum, my bf and I are in the highest quintile, which makes no sense since we aren't anyone's idea of rich. Well, maybe by the standards of developing nations we are rich, but certainly not by American standards. I'm a community college teacher and he's a librarian. How could we possible be in the highest quintile?
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I'm in the 4/5. But I have no children, i'm comfortable, I have more than I need, and I only work 24 hours a week.



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>>Really? Because if it's the sum, my bf and I are in the highest quintile, which makes no sense since we aren't anyone's idea of rich. Well, maybe by the standards of developing nations we are rich, but certainly not by American standards. I'm a community college teacher and he's a librarian. How could we possible be in the highest quintile?>>



This just goes to show that the average American household is poorer than you think.



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Thats another choice. For most people, populated coastal areas are more enjoyable to live in. That is reflected in the price.





Many people are born poor or working class in NYC or L.A. They didn't choose to live there because they find coastal areas enjoyable to live in.>>



This is a good point. In some cases, locale is choice, in others, constraint. Thus, neither statistical method of assessing class can be entirely appropriate in all cases.



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i dont know, this poll is a little funky. someone could live in the third and be alot worse off than i, because they have tons of kids or something.

Location is a major factor, too. Were my present house back where I grew up, it'd be worth maybe 40% of what it is here.



I'm in the fifth.
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Really? Because if it's the sum, my bf and I are in the highest quintile, which makes no sense since we aren't anyone's idea of rich. Well, maybe by the standards of developing nations we are rich, but certainly not by American standards. I'm a community college teacher and he's a librarian. How could we possible be in the highest quintile?



Pretty much anyone can accomplish relocation to a lower COL area if they chose. The people living in big cities are choosing to be there, even if they ***** about it.
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Really? Because if it's the sum, my bf and I are in the highest quintile, which makes no sense since we aren't anyone's idea of rich. Well, maybe by the standards of developing nations we are rich, but certainly not by American standards. I'm a community college teacher and he's a librarian. How could we possible be in the highest quintile?



Because you make as much as or more than 80 percent of households.



It really is the sum, I'm well qualified to interpret census bureau summary statistics.
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Pretty much anyone can accomplish relocation to a lower COL area if they chose. The people living in big cities are choosing to be there, even if they ***** about it.



If I were a homeless person, I think I'd rather live in a city than in the country. More warm vents in the winter, more opportunities in general. Unless, of course, I chose to be homeless and were going for the freegan-off-the-grid thang.

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If I were a homeless person, I think I'd rather live in a city than in the country. More warm vents in the winter, more opportunities in general. Unless, of course, I chose to be homeless and were going for the freegan-off-the-grid thang.



Well, homeless people aren't members of households so they aren't relevent to the discussion of whether or not we should consider households living in high COL areas to be penalized by that high COL.
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Pretty much anyone can accomplish relocation to a lower COL area if they chose.

True, though often with a concomitant lowering of SOL through lessened earning potential.
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True, though often with a concomitant lowering of SOL through lessened earning potential.



yeah, the grass is always greener on the other side



Thats why I like medium COL Portland, I can whine about how people on both sides have it better than me.
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