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#1 Old 05-19-2015, 02:20 PM
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What are the arguments you heard that are against veg*n diets?

Here's a few recent ones for me:

You absolutely NEED milk for calcium, because nothing else has calcium.

Droughts are caused by plants, not farm animals. That's why the dust bowl happened and that's why California has a bad drought right now.
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#2 Old 05-19-2015, 02:27 PM
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animals would take over the world, if we did´t keep them in check. no joke, some one actually told me that.
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Eating animals is ok per the holy books.
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The most popular one I see, "Mmmm. Bacon" or "but bacon!"
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an 8 year old told me "vegetarians are stupid, because bacon!" yikes.
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The best one I heard: The government wouldn't allow this to happen if it hurt others and endangered our health!
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The most popular one I see, "Mmmm. Bacon" or "but bacon!"
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an 8 year old told me "vegetarians are stupid, because bacon!" yikes.
I've gotten this, too, if it makes you feel better. If someone knows the big deal about bacon, please let me know.
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bacon is just a fatty/salty/smokey type taste.
We have those types of tastes in the veggie world too! You dont hear me saying "omnivores are stupid, because smoked almonds" or whatever (Omg, smoked almonds though, amirite?!!)
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The best one I heard: The government wouldn't allow this to happen if it hurt others and endangered our health!
The bigger joke here is that there's a person who still believes that the government is there for the larger good of mankind.
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"god put animals on earth for us to eat"/"animals are meant to be eaten"
"being veg*n is for rich/upper class white people"

I myself am low income but somehow manage to be vegetarian/mostly vegan. My grocery bill is definitely lower, meat is very expensive!
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"god put animals on earth for us to eat"/"animals are meant to be eaten"
"being veg*n is for rich/upper class white people"

I myself am low income but somehow manage to be vegetarian/mostly vegan. My grocery bill is definitely lower, meat is very expensive!
I too thought than vegan diets were for the wealthy "whole foods adjacent" type.

I have lived my entire childhood and adult life either under the poverty line, or right on it. I am not a classy white lady. I did not go to a 4 year college, and I have been a recipient of both the WIC and foodstamps programs.

So I dont fit whatever sterotype I thought veg*ns had to fit. I have seen a reduction in my grocery expenses ( I can detail this if someone wants specific examples).

I am not a super creative cook, I make simple stuff, and I dont have access to most of the substitute products that make veg*n diets more costly. I also dont buy organic produce, unless its through the local CSA, which is cheap. Other than that, its all conventional around here.

However,I do wear tevas, and do yoga, and have hair down to my butt, so I may be hitting a few stereotypes yet!
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I too thought than vegan diets were for the wealthy "whole foods adjacent" type.

I have lived my entire childhood and adult life either under the poverty line, or right on it. I am not a classy white lady. I did not go to a 4 year college, and I have been a recipient of both the WIC and foodstamps programs.

So I dont fit whatever sterotype I thought veg*ns had to fit. I have seen a reduction in my grocery expenses ( I can detail this if someone wants specific examples).

I am not a super creative cook, I make simple stuff, and I dont have access to most of the substitute products that make veg*n diets more costly. I also dont buy organic produce, unless its through the local CSA, which is cheap. Other than that, its all conventional around here.

However,I do wear tevas, and do yoga, and have hair down to my butt, so I may be hitting a few stereotypes yet!
haha usually veg*n stereotypes like doing yoga are actually cool I get organic produce a lot but I shop at grocery outlet! it's so much cheaper than bigger name grocery stores where I couldn't afford organic. For me, vegan substitute foods are usually nasty (maybe I haven't tried the right stuff) but it's easy to cook delicious food without any of that I agree.
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"Plants have plenty of protein, but you need brotein to build muscle"
Do the gorillas already know that?
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"Cows produce milk year round, they don't have to be pregnant/nursing. If we don't milk them they'll explode."

Some cows do lactate without giving birth but it's hardly enough to even feed a calf.
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"Cows produce milk year round, they don't have to be pregnant/nursing. If we don't milk them they'll explode."

Some cows do lactate without giving birth but it's hardly enough to even feed a calf.
They'll explode? I never heard that one!
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"Cows produce milk year round, they don't have to be pregnant/nursing. If we don't milk them they'll explode."

Some cows do lactate without giving birth but it's hardly enough to even feed a calf.
They'll explode? I never heard that one!
I've heard it a lot lol! I wonder where it even started.
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"Plants have plenty of protein, but you need brotein to build muscle"
Do we need to eat bros?
I can't get brotein; I'm an only child.
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I've heard it a lot lol! I wonder where it even started.
Well if the moon is made of cheese, that must be where it came from. All those exploding cows....

Perhaps eggs explode if we dont eat them, that would go a long way in explaining the sun.
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Heh. I've heard all these, except the "brotein" thing. Must be a Jersey deal.
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Sorry if some of these are already mentioned.

Cows will overrun the earth if we don't eat them!

(Yeah, seriously. Lol.)

If we don't breed the animals to eat, the specific breeds that we eat might go extinct.

Farming animals uses less resources than growing plants so we need to eat animals to feed the world's hungry!

I don't have the self control to turn down food that's around; therefore, meat.

My pets eat meat; since things die for them, I might as well eat meat too.

Eating meat doesn't harm people, and people are the only species that matters!

This 2000 year old book tells me to. If I don't eat meat like it says, I will burn in hell for all eternity. You will too! Repent and eat some NOW!

Meat is essential in some cultures. Therefore, I eat it too.

Vegans get sick and die. You don't want me to die, do you?

I kill ants in my yard. Since I already kill things, I should kill more things and eat them.

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That ethics is how you treat people, not animals.

That we evolved to eat them.


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Although she doesn't say anything to my face, my grandmother will make comments to my mother fairly often about my choice to be vegan and my brother's choice to be vegetarian. Her favorites are:
"God put animals on this earth for us to eat. They don't have souls and they don't feel pain like we do."
"It just can't be healthy, where do you get protein and calcium on a diet like that?"
"If everyone gave up meat then good farmers would be out of work. So-and-so used to raise pigs, is he so bad?"
"Oh, have a little milk, it isn't like it hurts the cow any."

Luckily for me, my mother is very supportive and tries to explain the ethics of it, the environmental aspect of it, and the health benefits.

My boyfriend's father acts like it's some form of self-inflicted punishment.
"Why do you deprive yourself of good food? Mmm, don't you want some of what everyone else is having?"
"What difference will it make if a few people do this? Animals still die every day."

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The most common argument I have been hearing lately is:

"I just couldn't do it because I need my meat."

Yeah. There you go. Immanuel Kant eat your heart out because that is such a convincing argument
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"my meat"- that phrase irks me to no end. It aint your meat pal.
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Sorry if some of these are already mentioned.

Cows will overrun the earth if we don't eat them!

(Yeah, seriously. Lol.)

If we don't breed the animals to eat, the specific breeds that we eat might go extinct.

Farming animals uses less resources than growing plants so we need to eat animals to feed the world's hungry!

I don't have the self control to turn down food that's around; therefore, meat.

My pets eat meat; since things die for them, I might as well eat meat too.

Eating meat doesn't harm people, and people are the only species that matters!

This 2000 year old book tells me to. If I don't eat meat like it says, I will burn in hell for all eternity. You will too! Repent and eat some NOW!

Meat is essential in some cultures. Therefore, I eat it too.

Vegans get sick and die. You don't want me to die, do you?

I kill ants in my yard. Since I already kill things, I should kill more things and eat them.

How often do you have conversations that you think, "Yeah, this will be in the Stupid Things Omnivores Say" thread...

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Although she doesn't say anything to my face, my grandmother will make comments to my mother fairly often about my choice to be vegan and my brother's choice to be vegetarian. Her favorites are:
"God put animals on this earth for us to eat. They don't have souls and they don't feel pain like we do."
"It just can't be healthy, where do you get protein and calcium on a diet like that?"
"If everyone gave up meat then good farmers would be out of work. So-and-so used to raise pigs, is he so bad?"
"Oh, have a little milk, it isn't like it hurts the cow any."

Luckily for me, my mother is very supportive and tries to explain the ethics of it, the environmental aspect of it, and the health benefits.

My boyfriend's father acts like it's some form of self-inflicted punishment.
"Why do you deprive yourself of good food? Mmm, don't you want some of what everyone else is having?"
"What difference will it make if a few people do this? Animals still die every day."
You might ask him the same thing and see what kind of reaction he gives you.

The bright spot in all of these, is when I was first learning about veganism (a couple of family members who moved here are vegan, and I didn't want to come across as an idiot), is not one of these thing ever crossed my mind as possible. I'm not sure that's good or not.
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"my meat"- that phrase irks me to no end. It aint your meat pal.
Exactly! It's not theirs and never was! It belonged to the animal who was murdered
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"my meat"- that phrase irks me to no end. It aint your meat pal.
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Exactly! It's not theirs and never was! It belonged to the animal who was murdered
I am stealing these, without a doubt.

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