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#1 Old 02-24-2004, 07:34 PM
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LONDON - Visitors to Britain will find a new stop on Londons site-seeing route this spring: a usable public toilet enclosed in one-way mirrored glass situated on a sidewalk near the River Thames. The contemporary art exhibit, which allows the user to see out while passers-by cannot peep in, toys with the concepts of privacy and voyeurism.



I think thered be a twinge of not believing that people outside couldnt see you, said Jeff Boloten, as he peered into the glass cube to see the metal prison toilet and its transparent walls.



The exhibit, entitled "Dont Miss A Sec," is on display at a construction site across the road from Tate Britain, the national gallery of British art from 1500 to the present.



As museum-goers inquisitively press their noses to the reflective glass, and construction workers mill about, it isn't difficult to see why people would feel uneasy about using the glass outhouse.



Playing with the idea of the most private bodily function and having to sit on a street corner is just bizarre, said Boloten, who works at the Tate Britain.



The construction site makes it interesting because portable toilets are at construction sites all the time, but, the Tate Britains a respected institution; the juxtaposition makes it more unique, he said.



Far from testing the viewers levels of embarrassment versus exhibitionism, the artist, Italian-born Monica Bonvicini, conceived of the idea while watching people at art openings. Amid the gossip and pageantry, nobody wanted to leave the room for fear of missing a key entrance or comment. The "Dont Miss A Sec" exhibit -- which was unveiled in December -- reflects peoples reluctance to leave the spectacle, and allows the art-goer to remain in the action, even while on the toilet.



While some viewers meditate on the exhibits psychological and cultural implications others revert to telling potty jokes.



British dailies and art commentaries have also had fun with the subject: Loo with a view and Bathroom humor in London have been among the headlines.



The use of the sterile prison toilet and sink unit stems from the fact that the site once housed the Millbank Penitentiary, where prisoners were held before being transported to Australia in the 1800s.



The prison's architect Jeremy Bentham had hoped to create a Panoptican, or all-seeing, surveillance system for the penitentiary.



His design envisioned a cylindrical central tower, from where a guard could see all the prisoners in their cells, which radiated out from the tower, without being seen himself.



Bentham believed that the knowledge that they were being watched would prevent prisoners from being disobedient, and that they would come to internalize the watchful eye and be able to act as their own guards if they were eventually released.



Although Benthams Panoptican was never realized, 21st century surveillance systems, like closed circuit television (CCTV), have taken on a similar role.



"Dont Miss a Sec" turns the tables by taking the all-seeing power away from the camera and giving it to the person on the toilet, while letting them remain invisible to the world.



But peoples' fears of being seen with their pants down still hold strong.



In 2000, a pair of self-proclaimed performance artists caused an uproar when they relieved themselves on artist Marcel Duchamp's 1917 sculpture of a urinal, on display at London's Tate Modern gallery.



But, even with full permission to defecate on Bonvicini's work of art, Britons and tourists alike tend to shy away from the challenge.



Considering that four-man outdoor urinals are a frequent site in the U.K. capital, some may question the need for nerves. And in some cultures using the toilet is not considered a private matter at all. In fact, it was common for ancient Greek aristocrats to discuss political and business affairs while attending to their own "personal business" in communal bathrooms.



Whatever one's take on toilet etiquette, visitors "Don't Miss A Sec" while viewing, or using, this exhibit.



You can see a photo of the toilet here http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4326340/
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#2 Old 02-24-2004, 07:42 PM
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no--no way no how no chance!! i get stagefright too much if i can hear someone talking--people being able to see me? uh-uh
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That's just brilliant! BRILLIANT!! I'd use it for sure.
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Sure, why not?
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Yes I would.



An interesting idea. I like the way in which some modern art uses interaction as a central part of itself.

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I'd do it.
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I wonder how many people will have sex in it.
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Hmm, I might have to pay this installation a visit if I'm in the area.
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That would sound fun except that I abhor public toilets. It isn't a germ thing either. I am just weird.
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I'd be too shy.
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Heck yeah.
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*shrugs* I'd use it!
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nonono...
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I wonder how many people will have sex in it.



I would put money on more people using it for that purpose than actually having a wee

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If I really had to go...
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What if the glass isn't sound proof?
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I would put money on more people using it for that purpose than actually having a wee



I bet you're right!
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i said maybe cause it'd depend on how bad i had to go and how far to a 'normal' bathroom. and also how clean it was.

i hate using an outhouse in a public campground cause you can hear people walking by and you just know they can hear you too. but i guess if there weren't a bunch of people standing around it i'd use it provided that it was clean

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can someone spare some change for me to buy a ticket to london?



heck yeah i would use it!!
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I would love, love, love to use it! (Providing it was clean of course.)
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Sure. I think this would be a GREAT way to overcome any pee-shyness you might have.
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I thought everyone pisses on each other here at VB anyway!
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Maybe. It would all depend on how badly I had to go at the time and how clean it was.
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I'd use it because I would know that others can't see me. I mean if they could, the first thing they would do is to make eyecontact. I think you can tell very precisely when someone sees you, and when they can't and are just looking in a mirror.
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I'd use the loo!
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I wonder how many people will have sex in it.





hm...that's a nice thought.





If I had to go, I'd use it.



I think it's even better than stopping near the road with your front to a tree and your back to the road.
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I wonder how many people will have sex in it.



I would have sex in it before I'd use the bathroom in it.
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I'd use it even if the glass & mirrors went the other way!!!
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I would put money on more people using it for that purpose than actually having a wee



I'd probably be one of them. I have a reputation amongst my friends for getting up to no good in toilets whilst I'm all alone, and I'd love to do it in this one. I can't be bothere dgoing to London, but if the toilet wants to come to Blackpool, then yes, that would be great, and you could expect me to use it for a multitude of purposes.
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When hell freezes over and I skate on it! I have enough "performance anxiety" in a regular public restroom.
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