Toyota throttles and flying saucers - VeggieBoards
Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
#1 Old 02-15-2011, 11:57 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 10,763
I think it's flying saucers. People have long reported that the presence of flying saucers often results in unusual magnetic fields. Old style mechanical watches stopped moving.

Newer drive by wire throttle designs have metal plates that move through a eleectro-magnetic field, changing the field, which changes the amount of electricity in the wires supplying the field. the car's ecu (onboard computer) reads the changes, and based on the values it gets, chooses values to use to change the magnetic field in the motor in the engine compartment, that actually opens and closes the car's throttle plate. A strong magnetic field could either move the throttle plate, or alter the amount of magnetic field produced by the throttle pedal. Either could result in the throttle opening all the way. Throttles on older cars with mechanical cables from the pedal to the throttle plate, weren't subject to being affected by magnetic fields.

the way to test this hypothesis is simply to drive a toyota thru and mri machine. Someone ought to check this out.

So why don't Hondas have the same problem? They also have drive by wire throttles. Differences in the design of the pedal could be the anwer. For example large magnetic fields could result in the throttle closing completely, instead of opening completely.
soilman is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
#2 Old 02-15-2011, 12:05 PM
Veggie Regular
 
Fromper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chicago, IL, USA
Posts: 7,014
Or perhaps Hondas just have floor mats that don't get caught on the pedal, which is what a recent investigation concluded was the primary cause of Toyota's problems.

--Fromper
Fromper is offline  
#3 Old 02-15-2011, 12:13 PM
Veggie Regular
 
Kappa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 824
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fromper View Post

primary cause of Toyota's problems

Incorrect. The primary cause of Toyota's problems is that the breaks don't work. :P

In this grand illusion of entitlement to life / Our 'need' is a mask for our greed and it's not right /
We are executioners who parade ourselves as kings / As selfish and deluded as the blood-bathed Bathory. ~Kingdom, 'Bathory' xVx
Kappa is offline  
#4 Old 02-15-2011, 02:52 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 10,763
Actually, the primary cause is inadequate training and licensing of drivers. None of the people who had collisions bothered to try and put the transmission into neutral, or, failing to be able to do that, turn off the ignition altogether. This is the second thing I learned, in regard to how to drive a car. First: what to do if you are not sure what else to do: stop, using the brakes. Second, what to do if the throttle is stuck open and you can't bring the engine speed back down to idle with the throttle pedal: press down the clutch if the car has a manual transmission, and with any transmission, shift to neutral, or shut off the engine (this varies according to make and model). I wasn't allowed to get behind the wheel until I had these 2 things memorized. Then I learned: every time you get into an unfamiliar car, don't start it until you have first made sure you know the brakes work, how to get it into neutral, and how to turn off the engine without locking the steering wheel.

I saw one of the "victims" complaining that first he stepped on the brake and when that didn't help as much as he expected, he stepped on the "emergency brake" and blaming Toyota for having inadequate emergency brakes. Unfortunately, those auxillary brakes that cars have had since 1956, are not emergency brakes, but parking brakes, and every owners manual for every car, calls them parking brakes, not emergency brakes. If the regular brakes are working, but not stopping the car, the parking brake is not going to provide any additional braking. They are simply an additional (cable) connection to the same rear brakes that the regular brake pedal connects to (hydraulically). If the pedal was operating all 4 brakes, but the car wasn't stopping, using this redundant system for activating the rear brakes, isn't going to help any. He clearly was not adequately educated in how cars work, and should not have been licensed.

That said, I still think a computer software problem where garbled signals for the pedal sensor, cause the throttle motor to open the throttle, instead of close it, was the problem in some cases, not floor mats interfering with the pedal. And I still think flying saucers are the reason, in many cases, why the pedal sensors and computer were not communicating properly.
soilman is offline  
#5 Old 02-15-2011, 02:57 PM
Veggie Regular
 
Floridaisa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,098
no, I think it's the aliens.

Atame.
Floridaisa is offline  
#6 Old 02-16-2011, 07:37 PM
Veggie Regular
 
Josh James xVx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 3,097
Hasn't it already been determined that improper carpet was installed in the driver's side floor of most of these vehicles which caused issues with the acceleration and brake pads?

Tam! RUGH!
Josh James xVx is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the VeggieBoards forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in


Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off