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http://www.takepart.com/news/2011/01...dinnertomorrow
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Imagine a day when your meat is produced in factories the size of football fields, nourished by large bioreactors.
You've just pictured one slivered facet of developmental biologist and tissue engineer Vladimir Mironov's fantasy.
Mironov has been working for 10 years on lab-grown meat that he believes can solve future global food crises as arable land diminishes, reports Reuters. He plans to call the edible flesh "charlem," short for Charleston engineered meat, a hat tip to the South Carolina city where he's doing his research.
So how's a steak created without involvement from a steer?
According to Reuters:
Dr. Mironov has taken myoblastsembryonic cells that develop into muscle tissuefrom turkey and bathed them in a nutrient bath of bovine serum on a scaffold made of chitosan (a common polymer found in nature) to grow animal skeletal muscle tissue.
You've just pictured one slivered facet of developmental biologist and tissue engineer Vladimir Mironov's fantasy.
Mironov has been working for 10 years on lab-grown meat that he believes can solve future global food crises as arable land diminishes, reports Reuters. He plans to call the edible flesh "charlem," short for Charleston engineered meat, a hat tip to the South Carolina city where he's doing his research.
So how's a steak created without involvement from a steer?
According to Reuters:
Dr. Mironov has taken myoblastsembryonic cells that develop into muscle tissuefrom turkey and bathed them in a nutrient bath of bovine serum on a scaffold made of chitosan (a common polymer found in nature) to grow animal skeletal muscle tissue.
ÂNothing can cure the soul but the senses, just as nothing can cure the senses but the soul. - Oscar Wilde
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It's pretty disgusting, but I appreciate the thought about ending world hunger with it.
I wonder what the ruling is for lab-grown meat. Does eating it mean you're not a vegetarian? Thinking about the ingredients they're using, could it be construed as being part of the ovo-lacto lifestyle? Embryonics and whatnot?
Or does bathing them in a nutrient bath of bovine serum automatically shoot that clay pigeon down?
I wonder what the ruling is for lab-grown meat. Does eating it mean you're not a vegetarian? Thinking about the ingredients they're using, could it be construed as being part of the ovo-lacto lifestyle? Embryonics and whatnot?
Or does bathing them in a nutrient bath of bovine serum automatically shoot that clay pigeon down?
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Honestly, I don't think I could even imagine trying that, just the gross factor. But I am for it if it reduces the number of animals that suffer. I hope he is able to get funding for his research. Plus, it would be better for the environment too.
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I would eat it, if it didn't have links to slaughter. I think that hoping it might put an end to world hunger is a very noble cause.
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I love the idea of buying lab meat for pets, and in my future dream house I can have a whole lot of cats and dogs and feed meat to them, guilt free....
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Rather than this sort of technocrap, people should be working on not poisoning and destroying arable land, and avoiding GM crops which cause the artificially high yields of crops that then kill any profit that the third world can make, thus making them dependent on food aid.
Meat, grown in a machine or whatever else, is still meat to me, and indeed if I'm not objecting to it on a veg*n level, I'm objecting to it on a gut level; the idea is disgusting, unsustainable and dangerously reliant on consumer-Capitalism. No, no and no.
Meat, grown in a machine or whatever else, is still meat to me, and indeed if I'm not objecting to it on a veg*n level, I'm objecting to it on a gut level; the idea is disgusting, unsustainable and dangerously reliant on consumer-Capitalism. No, no and no.
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We are executioners who parade ourselves as kings / As selfish and deluded as the blood-bathed Bathory. ~Kingdom, 'Bathory' xVx
We are executioners who parade ourselves as kings / As selfish and deluded as the blood-bathed Bathory. ~Kingdom, 'Bathory' xVx
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I love the idea of buying lab meat for pets,
I love the idea of buying lab meat for pets,
This.
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i don't think it's healthy for your vascular system to eat meat period. now, let's say they can engineer it to grow just the protein without any fat. would i eat it? heck no. i much prefer to have a garden.
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Originally Posted by Freesia
I love the idea of buying lab meat for pets, and in my future dream house I can have a whole lot of cats and dogs and feed meat to them, guilt free....
I love the idea of buying lab meat for pets, and in my future dream house I can have a whole lot of cats and dogs and feed meat to them, guilt free....
I like this use for it as well. But I'd just be that crazy cat lady
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From what I read he is referring to a FUTURE world food crisis. This lab meat is meant to replace what is now coming out of feedlots. People would still have to purchase it. It won't be free to the starving people of the world.
I also think this is no different from genetic engineering of plants and it scares me a little. I don't think I would use it for my pets or myself.
I also think this is no different from genetic engineering of plants and it scares me a little. I don't think I would use it for my pets or myself.
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1. Lab meat is good in that if it goes commerical it will reduce the suffering of animals.
2. We should not kid ourselves that lab grown meat will solve world hunger. Besides being unhealthy, we already have everything we need to solve world hunger. We just need to reduce the amount of grain tied up in the production of meat and give it to humans who need it to survive.
3. Meat is unhealthy. So even if there is no ethical reason why I shouldn't eat it, there sure is a personal health reason why I won't be eating it.
2. We should not kid ourselves that lab grown meat will solve world hunger. Besides being unhealthy, we already have everything we need to solve world hunger. We just need to reduce the amount of grain tied up in the production of meat and give it to humans who need it to survive.
3. Meat is unhealthy. So even if there is no ethical reason why I shouldn't eat it, there sure is a personal health reason why I won't be eating it.
"It is far better to be happy than to have your bodies act as graveyards for animals. Accordingly, the apostle Matthew partook of seeds, nuts and vegetables, without flesh"- Clement of Alexandria
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It sounds gross to me but that's because meat is gross to me. I won't be eating it but it would be nice to give to the animals.
I have a feeling a lot of meat eaters won't eat it because "it's not natural" but the genetically modified chickens and hormone pumped cows are.
I have a feeling a lot of meat eaters won't eat it because "it's not natural" but the genetically modified chickens and hormone pumped cows are.
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