Originally Posted by dormouse
Exitof99, I tend to agree with your idea of things. I consider myself something of an existentialist. While I cannot disprove the existence of mystical powers beyond human perception (and sometimes even sense that there might be some), I do not believe
in any and certainly am not banking on them. I don't think life has any meaning given to us from above, and that consciousness is most likely just a great accident. I think death is probably just the end. A great blankness of being not-alive, like the time before we were born.
My Dad was talking about his interesting ideas the other day though. Though he doesn't explicitly believe in a god, he does see order in nature that leads him to believe in an afterlife. His idea is that in nature, nothing is wasted and everything is recycled. Everything we learn and become in our lifetime won't be wasted either. I don't find this terribly convincing, but it's another non-organized-religion idea on death that isn't just nothingness.
I agree that there may be things that we are incapable of comprehending as well as things that may very well be right in front of us that may explain things a bit more. Personally, I've looked in to past lives, the idea that we might have lived before, as well outer body experiences and trying to test whether the mind and body are separate or linked. Also other phenomenon like Mothers' Intuition and people that have died and been resuscitated.
I had an idea that if we all come from a common center (which may be a larger presence that encompasses us all or existence as a whole) then perhaps certain things are possible that seem mystical. I started thinking on how to achieve such states. For instance, perhaps the way to reach outside of ourselves is to remove the senses we are relying on in hopes to recognize other senses. To see and not see, hear and not hear, so forth. I assumed that this would be essentially meditation, and through this process perhaps given enough time we would be able to focus on other senses.
Upon born, we are closest to this state. We do not understand was vision is nor hearing, taste, touch, smell. It takes time for the brain to study and correlate what the senses pick up with a mental understanding of environment. The same would apply if there actually are other senses to be discovered and verified.
I recently watched a program on past lives which made a point that young children are more likely to claim that they remember a past life. They followed one boy to test his perception of another family that he believed in. The video leads the viewer to believe that past lives may actually be real, but it is hard to say in media if this was done with intent and scripted or it was truly a study with no interference with the outcome. It's interesting either way:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdmMEKPFDTY&feature=searchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOUIE...eature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGlUS...eature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rn2i...eature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv_U8...eature=related
My response to this is to find a logical solution. If indeed we are all linked, then perhaps we can access other lives. I thought about it like this. If our bodies were radio controlled, we all could have individual frequencies. Perhaps some could tune in to other frequencies? Some issues that this thinking raises are:
1. If humans began with small numbers, say 10,000, then we have 10,000 individual frequencies. What happens when another life exists which couldn't match a previous life, a new frequency is established?
2. What happens if the general population drops, are these frequencies lost forever or put on hold?
3. Is it possible for someone to tune in to a frequency of someone living (psychic ability)?
I don't believe
in these things, but all things should be considered and studied.
My mother always quoted Einstein as saying that energy can not be destroyed. It does sound interesting, but I don't see how to apply that to anything. Assume we have a soul which is our energy. Then once we die, we are separated from the flesh and the energy then exists, but without the tools of the body. This then would mean no seeing, no hearing, no thinking, no memory, nothing. I don't see any way that we could wake up in another life that is eternal, but perhaps there are other senses, like I discussed above, that can be developed during life which will lead to a different form of consciousness. This is an idea, but one would have to first prove that the mind and body are truly separate in some fashion or that the existence of a soul is real.
Just like science, multiple theories can try to explain something not understood. It takes testing and study to determine if any of those theories hold any water. I love the fact that we can endlessly wonder and debate these things.