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#1 Old 12-18-2009, 06:11 AM
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London, England (CNN) -- When Nadya Suleman gave birth to octuplets in January 2009 the news was greeted with amazement around the world.



But astonishment soon gave way to criticism directed at her -- it was revealed that she was already a mother to six children -- and over the ethics of fertility treatment.



So far she has weathered the storm and soon her eight babies will be celebrating their first birthday. But how on earth does she cope?



http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/am...ets/index.html



"Inevitably, it is impossible for her to give each child the attention they deserve." Here's the crux. People who bring lots of kids into this world create a problem for some of those kids immediately with this. So unbelievably selfish and they actually realize that there's no humanly possible way to give each child the attention they deserve.

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Caring for octuplets -- six boys and two girls -- poses a unique economic challenge for the 34-year-old mother of 14 who has also been criticized for being jobless.



What the hell, people expect her to work AND raise 14 kids?
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Yes. She planned them all. It's not like she took in 14 orphans. Why should the rest of us have to work and provide for her 14 kids?
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I'm glad someone is doing well in this economy...Sorry, were my eyes rolling too loudly?

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Yes. She planned them all. It's not like she took in 14 orphans. Why should the rest of us have to work and provide for her 14 kids?



It's not the fault of the children that the mother was IMO irresponsible.
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I see the situation as this:



She is a woman who obviously has a mental health issue. Instead of recognizing that, as doctors are supposed to do, a fertility specialist ignored it. He then assisted a woman who is unstable mentally and financially in getting pregnant with an amount that is abnormal for a human female. Now she can't work because she has so many children, but in my experience, some (I said some, not all) people with mental health issues are unable to work anyway until their condition improves. So her employment would be non-existent in either circumstance.



Employment here is not the issue. Medical negligence is the 'umbrella' of the whole thing. Because of this doctor six children are now left even more ignrored and eight more are coming into this world learning about food stamps and amusing themselves as their mother is overwhelmed. In the mean time, their mother is now so immersed in the everyday care of the children that she is left untreated and uncounselled.



I see Ms. Sulemon (sp?) as an ill woman who got the wrong doctor and needs help. As far as the kids go, they would probably be better off adopted out, or fostered for awhile, until her circumstances change due to her own efforts and wanting of assistance to get better.
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I see the situation as this:



She is a woman who obviously has a mental health issue. Instead of recognizing that, as doctors are supposed to do, a fertility specialist ignored it. He then assisted a woman who is unstable mentally and financially in getting pregnant with an amount that is abnormal for a human female. Now she can't work because she has so many children, but in my experience, some (I said some, not all) people with mental health issues are unable to work anyway until their condition improves. So her employment would be non-existent in either circumstance.



Employment here is not the issue. Medical negligence is the 'umbrella' of the whole thing. Because of this doctor six children are now left even more ignrored and eight more are coming into this world learning about food stamps and amusing themselves as their mother is overwhelmed. In the mean time, their mother is now so immersed in the everyday care of the children that she is left untreated and uncounselled.



I see Ms. Sulemon (sp?) as an ill woman who got the wrong doctor and needs help. As far as the kids go, they would probably be better off adopted out, or fostered for awhile, until her circumstances change due to her own efforts and wanting of assistance to get better.



Totally agree with this!
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Totally agree with this!



Yep, me too. Well said Alicia Avocado. Even in Australia we hear about this woman and her children - people love to criticise her, but really, to me it's quite obvious she's not of sane mind, and what sort of doctor help her go on fertility drugs when she already had 6? That's crazy. Those kids need all the help they can get, and that doctor's registration should be looked at.
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Hey it was you who put that word in the thread title

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actually, is seems to me she has a sound business plan. do something incredibly outrageous and live off the media attention it provides.
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Yes. She planned them all. It's not like she took in 14 orphans. Why should the rest of us have to work and provide for her 14 kids?



Oh you're totally right, she should get a job so that they're deprived of even more of her time!
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The situation's ridiculous and bad no matter how you look at it. The kids are suffering no matter the outcome. She might as well stay home and try to divy up her "unconditional" love among all of them.

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Oh you're totally right, she should get a job so that they're deprived of even more of her time!



It's a lose/lose situation. She's a single mom, who had 6 children she couldn't afford, and then got pregnant with more. She knew there was a high chance of having multiples. So she could work, and have less time for them, or stay home, and still probably not have one on one time with each of them, and the tax payers can pay for them.
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I feel bad for her kids. Maybe she should do what the Duggers do and set the older kids up with a younger ''buddy'' so she doesn't have to do as much work. Okay I'm half-joking with that. I think if people really want to help her, she should be granted free tuition at a school or something so she can get some skills to get a good job so when her kids are all old enough to start going to school, she can go back to work. Is that realistic? I'm not a mom or anything so I don't know . . . but at this point it seems like people are just giving her a fish so she can eat it, instead of teaching her to fish so she can feed herself...etc

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I feel bad for her kids. Maybe she should do what the Duggers do and set the older kids up with a younger ''buddy'' so she doesn't have to do as much work. Okay I'm half-joking with that. I think if people really want to help her, she should be granted free tuition at a school or something so she can get some skills to get a good job so when her kids are all old enough to start going to school, she can go back to work. Is that realistic? I'm not a mom or anything so I don't know . . . but at this point it seems like people are just giving her a fish so she can eat it, instead of teaching her to fish so she can feed herself...etc





That's a tough call. Free tuition means it comes out of our pockets. Unless someone graciously gives her the money. I don't want to help pay for her. I don't think she's interested in that anyways, considering the media path she's taken. Maybe she should be teaching herself to fish instead. Soy fish of course!!

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Honestly, I agree with unovegan. it doesn't even seem like she WANTS to get an education or job. She loves the media attention and all the help.
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Yeah, you're both right. She probably wouldn't be interested. It's like she has no pride. What a shame.

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Yeah, you're both right. She probably wouldn't be interested. It's like she has no pride. What a shame.



It's sad for her and more so, her kids. The fame and attention will wear off, and she needs to prepare herself to start taking care of the kids herself.
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I actually used to live pretty close to her, and she used to come in ALL the time to our starbucks. She would always order the most annoying things. Once we even had a whole group of paparazzi's come into our store. It was so frustrating...SHES NOT A CELEBRITY! Thank God I moved from California.
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What's an annoying order?
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The fact that she has money for freaking Starbucks when the taxpayers are helping support her kids is annoying. Maybe that's what she meant.
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When you have that many kids and are only one person...how the hell do you have time to go to Starbucks?
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What's an annoying order?



Probably one with a lot of specifications.

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The fact that she has money for freaking Starbucks when the taxpayers are helping support her kids is annoying. Maybe that's what she meant.



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When you have that many kids and are only one person...how the hell do you have time to go to Starbucks?



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When you have that many kids and are only one person...how the hell do you have time to go to Starbucks?



With her level of needed attention/attentiveness, I'd be hitting up triple shots throughout the day for sure!! She could open up one of those small starbucks with the number of people in her household. 15 plus whoever helps out!! It's like a small business office.

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Is she still accepting public assistance? I thought that stopped once she got the web deal and the tv show.

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When you have that many kids and are only one person...how the hell do you have time to go to Starbucks?



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