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#1 Old 08-12-2016, 03:10 PM
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wholegrains/flavour/hormones...

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So... I've just seen a dietician specialising in various relevant stuffs and they recommended (wait for it) 'something akin to a traditional Chinese diet high in vegetables and natural foods but low in wholegrains and seeds' because apart from taste, the benefits of those tends to be their lowering of the hormones I actually need.
Does that sound crazy to you?!

If not and you have any suggestions as to how to make things like white basmati actually tasty... please do share.

It seems my entire diet is made up of fairly anti-estrogenic lignans and wholefoods etc... and I have no idea how to eat any other way! ha. But I'll give it a shot.
The one time what I was seeing the dietician about wasn't the case was admittedly staying with partner's parents in a very small town with these two older-generation people who ate in that style (and the GF options were bland, 'unhealthy' and boring).
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#2 Old 08-12-2016, 05:16 PM
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I'm just going to keep saying to gain some weight, you know.

I cook basmati rice with a bit of salt, tablespoon of sugar, dash of cinnamon, a can of coconut milk, some coconut flakes, (toasted are best). Smells divine! I have a new rice cooker, so the rice comes out fluffy! And that is why I am adding all this stuff lol. 😃
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Hey team!
So... I've just seen a dietician specialising in various relevant stuffs and they recommended (wait for it) 'something akin to a traditional Chinese diet high in vegetables and natural foods but low in wholegrains and seeds' because apart from taste, the benefits of those tends to be their lowering of the hormones I actually need.
Does that sound crazy to you?!

If not and you have any suggestions as to how to make things like white basmati actually tasty... please do share.

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Almost all plant foods contain lignans. According to this article from Oregon State University, lignin precursor foods include beans, whole grains, fruits, and vegetables. http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/dieta...micals/lignans . Certain foods, like flax seeds, contain much more lignans than other plant foods (see the list in the article).

Which foods, specifically, is the dietitian recommending to make a nutritionally-complete diet? Does the dietitian know that you're a vegan? What was the dietitian's advice for you as a vegan?


Was this person an actual Registered Dietitian, or were they a nutritionist or other profession?

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Specific recommendations for a healthy diet include: eating more fruit, vegetables, legumes, nuts and grains; cutting down on salt, sugar and fats. It is also advisable to choose unsaturated fats, instead of saturated fats and towards the elimination of trans-fatty acids."
- United Nations' World Health Organization
http://www.who.int/topics/diet/en/

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#4 Old 08-12-2016, 07:39 PM
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Ledboots, believe me, that's a welcome chorus and remains my key focus. 2 kilos in the last month! It's happening slowly but surely and I know it would resolve all things. I guess I'm just a little impatient and am keen to help balance a few things out before I'm at my goal weight. Plus it IS interesting that there were a few normal periods straight after I went GF (and was actually at a lower weight) and then I figured out how to eat healthily like this and they lengthened a lot!? I hadn't really noted that. But yes, weight is primary goal for sure.
Man, that rice sounds AMAZING. I'm making that this afternoon. Doing it! THANKYOU!

David, she's a registered dietician also trained in naturopathy and TCM (older. Has spent a lifetime studying. I really like her!). She's aware of my veganism and is ok with that but feels eggs would be really beneficial and the occasional piece of cheese. Particularly the eggs. Kept saying eggs.
She's definitely not advocating eating no lignans/plant foods but more just swapping them out where there are other options and leaving them in where they're vital for nutrition etc. to moderate my high intake of them. So beans and white rice, which still contains the beans etc. She was also really clear on avoiding flax, which is in my GF bread (and could be something that's changed, actually) so I'll change that. No soy either but everyone has said that so...yeah. I have high levels of prolactin and apparently dopamine lowers prolactin and soy and flax elevate so they're key players. It was interesting. I'm not sure I totally agree but I'm willing to try it out. It's just weird. I grew up eating about 8 serves of wholegrains a day and drinking soy and such. It's healthy for most people and particularly after having children but apparently not so great for me right now.
The weight will make the most difference but isn't immediate. Sigh.
I think I'll take what she said with a grain of salt and just not make all my snacks wholegrain crackers, bread from flax, drink soy etc. and see what happens...
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All feels a bit like some kind of biohack when I probably just need to wait for weight... but I did get her points.

Everything else is awesome and my body is very happy so keeping that in mind too
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I'm so glad you are on track, the gain is so encouraging! 😃

My advice is to gain first and worry about nutrients and hormone helping/hurting foods later, if necessary. The easiest way to regulate hormones and up fertility chances is to maintain a healthy normal BMI for six months.
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That's a really good point. It's quite hard to worry about both. I'm trying to pack on the kilos whilst avoiding certain foods etc.
You're right. Thanks. I think I needed to hear that. Even if I had been somehow managing shorter cycles straight after being diagnosed, striving to get back there won't be as helpful as moving forwards to a new place of shorter cycles AND a healthier weight. If that makes sense.

I feel so terrible I'm letting the team down whilst partner is making so much effort with all this. Gar.
But very happy health is otherwise awesome and that this will get there too. I just hope it's not too late by the time it does...
So impatient. Just want to do everything I can RIGHT NOW. I actually can't believe I care so much. Came right outta the blue, that did...
They always tell you that will happen ...
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That's a really good point. It's quite hard to worry about both. I'm trying to pack on the kilos whilst avoiding certain foods etc.
You're right. Thanks. I think I needed to hear that. Even if I had been somehow managing shorter cycles straight after being diagnosed, striving to get back there won't be as helpful as moving forwards to a new place of shorter cycles AND a healthier weight. If that makes sense.

I feel so terrible I'm letting the team down whilst partner is making so much effort with all this. Gar.
But very happy health is otherwise awesome and that this will get there too. I just hope it's not too late by the time it does...
So impatient. Just want to do everything I can RIGHT NOW. I actually can't believe I care so much. Came right outta the blue, that did...
They always tell you that will happen
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Hahaha I have learned not to say that to women lol. It sure happens to some though!
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