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#1 Old 04-25-2003, 11:46 PM
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I am feeling really weak (not physically but mentally) regarding food. It is either all or nothing. I decided not to eat meat and did it. I haven't lost any weight. I really don't think I am strong enough to go Vegan but I am getting to the point if I don't I won't be able to lose weight.

I don't want to count calories. I got into that and on the days I did eat I would have less than 500 a day. I lost 50 pounds in 76 days - my hair fell out, I was sick for a long time, felt worse than I did at my heaviest weight and I was just completely messed up in the head! I even started counting calories in my calcium chews!

Back to my point - I haven't had a problem with giving up meat/gelatin products/eggs and most dairy because it is easier for me to think of the animals instead of thinking I am depriving myself of certain foods. I am trying to figure out things but I am having trouble. I don't know what to do. Any advice? Is it wrong to say I am veg*n even if it is just about weight loss?



Edited to say that it has been over a year since I got sick (as far as dieting). I have not counted calories since then. I only recently became veg (about 3 months ago)
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#2 Old 04-25-2003, 11:51 PM
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hi.



i was fat before i went vegan, and i'm still fat now, after almost five years of veganity.



it's no guarantee for weightloss.



go vegan for your health, and for the planet, and for the animals, instead.
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I originally went from veg to vegan to loose weight (McDougal) but that was maybe 15 years ago. I could loose a bag full of weight now.



You have most likely messed up your metabolism with that starvation diet. You should talk to a nutritionist in my less then humble opinion. I did a similar thing but was throwing up two to three times a day because of stress and anxiety attacks (I did not want to throw up, I did not make myself do it directly, but it had the same effect on my body as bulimia) Get some help shatlav.
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#4 Old 04-26-2003, 12:25 AM
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First, you don't have to become vegan to loose weight. You can loose weight on any kind of diet; you just have to reduce the number of calories you consume. You can do that by eating less or eating lower calorie foods. It helps to increase the amount of fiber in your diet because fiber isn't digesable so it won't add weight and yet it makes you feel full. Cutting down on added sugar and oil is also a good idea since they are empty calories.



It looks like you were trying to go too far too fast on your calorie counting diet. I'm not an expert on dieting but am sure that 500 kcals per day isn't enough.



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Is it wrong to say I am veg*n even if it is just about weight loss?



Absolutely not. If you don't eat any kind of animals then you are a vegetarian. It isn't about why you don't eat animals.
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i didn't do it to lose weight but i did lose a little weight after making the switch.

it was mainly after giving up dairy, a rubber tire literally melted away, so to speak.
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I did become vegan/vegetarian to lose weight, and it didn't work. Instead, I gained 15 pounds! My theory is that while this high carb diet DOES work for some people to lose weight, other people- like me- do not lose weight because of it.

Nontheless, my skin has cleared considerably, I have more energy (when I'm eating a PROPER vegan diet) and I am the healthiest I have ever been. If you feel that you want to lose weight, I would contact a nutritionist or other healthcare professional who can help you do it in a responsible manner....500 calories is clearly a disordered eating pattern and being thin is not, not, not, NOT worth it. Please read up on veganism and see its other benefits in addition to possible weight loss- vegan is truly a healthy lifestyle that is highly beneficial to the earth.

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It sounds as if this weight issue is causing you a lot of stress. I think you would be better off first reducing the stress around that issue for you before anything else. That wil make you a happier person. I doubt it is easy to control whatever problems with food you have if you are unhappy or don't like yourself. Maybe a support group or starting an exercise regimine with a group if you haven't already. Not only will you be happier, but you may end up building some healthier habits and get some new friends. Always a plus! Even if you already exercise, doing it with people gives the benefit of social support.



(whenever I want to get motivated to get healthy, I watch these videos hosted by Covert Bailey at the library. They were originally from PBS. He's real funny and good at getting people to exercise and feel better.)



Disclaimer- I have had times where I ate way too much or way too little from stress and poor self esteem, etc. But my advice mainly comes from my job helping to implement ways of improving preventive health in medicine, and intuition. I should be following this advice myself!
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Thank you all for your advice and kind words.
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I also gained a little bit of weight after going veg*n. About 10-15lbs. I also feel healthier and have more energy than before though. I also did have food isues before hand where I needed to gain some weight, so the weight gain didn't bother me at all.



And no, I don't think its a bad thing to go veg*n for weight loss.
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#10 Old 04-26-2003, 05:16 PM
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I just wanted to thank everyone for replying. I have done so much reading today. I have decided that I am going to try my hardest to be vegan. I want to be healthy. I want to do something that matters. If I look at it from a healthy view instead of a way to diet I feel better about things.

I admire all of you that have the strength to be who you are, are happy with yourself and not worry about what people think. Thank you again!
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Veganism isn't a quick fix for weight. I went vegan and I inadvertantly lost weight. I had been vegetarian for months and inadvertently lost weight as well. By the time I decided to be vegetarian, I had given up all hope of ever being the size I had once been....so I wasn't looking at it from that point of view. Rather I just wanted to feel better about the food I was eating. I wasn't treating myself very well at the time. I was doing a lot of other things too that I stopped which inadvertently became part of my weight loss. LOL....really I never MEANT to lose.



All I knew was I wanted for my life to change. A LOT. So I quit drinking, I quit eating meat...I started praying to a 'higher power', began exercising in a healthy way, and eventually gave up dairy.



and here I am today. I sort of accidentally lost a lot of weight. I eat a lot and I eat very well. And I don't do the battle of the bulge anymore.



Good luck with your decision.



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I weighed less when I was vegetarian. Although my diet then was beer, drugs and whatever food I managed to scrounge. Since I've been vegan ( almost 4 years ) I've gained weight. I enjoy food so much more, cooking, eating, shopping, ect. It's important to treat your body kindly, eat healthy, but don't deprive yourself.
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I think women have alot harder time with this issue than men. I may be wrong though. My mom lost 70 pounds and is alot helthier/active now. I have lost 40 pounds in about 5 months. I have only been vegan 3 months or so now. Vegan helped eliminate some things, like pretty much all deserts besides the obvious things. I think the key to weight loss is the right motivation, and the right mind set. I decided first that I was going to lose weight then I started elimnating foods that "killed" me. Now I exersice so much 1.5 hours a day that I can eat alot more calories and get away with it.
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I gave up most animal products for my health, which in my case included losing quite a bit of weight and in the last couple months I've lost about 25 pounds. It has to be understood, however, that my diet was so ridiculously bad before I changed it that it would be virtually impossible for me *not* to be losing weight. I still have a looong way to go.



I second what everyone else said about getting help with your stress and issues with dieting overall. Be good to your body (your body is a wonderful thing!) and it well treat you well in return. You might want to check out the Eat to Live thread that's floating around here.



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#15 Old 04-28-2003, 03:46 AM
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i was only vegan for 3 weeks(hoping to do it again on a permant basis though) but i lost 9kgs in that time!

Its good! but kinda annoying because none of my clothes fit now...

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About 1.5 months ago, I had quit eating dairy and eggs entirely and I have lost 10 lbs so far, no small feat for me. Being 5'2" it is very easy to look heavy. I feel fantastic though. But i have taken pains to give up a lot of stuff the past 6 months, tho, including soda! I say, it could never hurt to try, right!
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#17 Old 05-04-2003, 06:44 PM
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Shatlav,



When I went veg last year, I lost about 25 pounds in 6 months. BUT... it was not only due to food. I also started working out regularly. It took a lot of perseverance but it was well worth it. Here are some things to keep in mind when you're changing your eating habits to lose weight - it worked for me so I'm passing it along in the hopes that you can pick and chose if any of this works for you!


  • Don't look at veg*nism as a diet. You are not on a diet. You have made a lifestyle change that (hopefully) will not end when you've reached your weight loss goals. If you view it as a diet, you will inevitably feel deprived, which will lead to binging and guilty feelings and giving it up.


  • Veg*nism doesn't automatically mean "healthy". As a vegan, I can eat bowls of pasta and vegan junk food and gain tons of weight. You have to put some thought into what you're eating. Eat a variety of foods from all the veggie and grain groups and you shouldn't have to count calories.


  • Planning meals and cooking a variety of different foods is key, because if you are eating the same things every day, you'll get board and give up veg*nism (especially if you are making the change due to health reasons). Be creative! Invest in a few cook books or get recipes online.


  • For the first month, I kept track of everything I ate in a spreadsheet, including all nutrient contents, to ensure that I was getting all of my proteins, vitamins and other nutrients. After the first month of doing this, I got to know what foods I should eat in order to get a balanced diet and I didn't have to keep track any more. It wasn't about the calories, but about making sure that I was getting everything I needed.


  • EXCERCISE!!!! This is key, not only for losing weight, but for being healthy and preventing other conditions such as certain cancers, bone problems, heart disease, etc. You don't need to go crazy and workout for 2 hours in a gym, but you should try to get at least 30 minutes of activity in each day. It could be something as simple as a brisk walk or some time on the tread mill. In my case, I joined a women's gym called Curves (they're all over the US), which offers an easy 30-minute workout. I still go and I love them. It's just part of my daily routine now, so I don't look at is as "Ugh, I have to go to the gym."


  • Find good food substitutes if you want to try to go vegan. If you like cheese and dairy, try to find good (not yucky!) replacements like soy dream ice cream, soy milk, tofutti cream cheese, etc. I'm still fighting my cheese cravings, but I find that the better the replacement, the less I miss the dairy. This also ties back to my point about cooking a variety of different foods. I never really cooked anything before going veg, and now I feel like the possibilities are endless, and dairy is slowly fading out of the picture.



This sounds like a lot, but it's just an example of some of the things that worked for me. I spent so many years looking for the quick fix diet, and it wasn't until I went veg that I realized losing weight works best when you build it into an entire program af healthy living, including developing new eating habits and incorporating exercise.



Good luck and don't give up!!!!!!
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i totally recommend seeing a nutritionist who specialises in vegan nutrition, there are some on the web you can contact i believe if you do a search..



The best book i have ever found for simple vegan meal planning that also deals with ED issues and all the positive health stuff for looking after yourself is BECOMING VEGAN by Brenda Davis... definitely worth the investment!



I have been anorexic and vegan. Now I am just vegan but I know how much to eat to be healthy, even if the old ED demons crawl around in my head sometimes, most of the time they are under control.



But when i furst went vegan, i was a traveller and i lost a lot of weight from not eating enough and over-exercising by walking everywhere all the time!



It was a shame for me that the issues got confused. I went vegan for ethics and health but then i liked losing weight and the anorexia took over. To recover, I had to go back to eating everything for a while, and now I am happily vegan again with support networks like this that make it so much easier to stay focused for the right reasons...



You are on the right track... I wish i had known about this site when I was where you are now!



Good luck, and do check out that book if you can get it... amazon have it!
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Becoming a vegetarian or vegan will not necessarily make you lose weight. One example is if you are a vegetarian who doesn't like many vegetables (as was the case with me for the more than 10 years I was a vegetarian) I began relying a lot more on pasta and I tell you that certainly didn't make me any thinner. So the moral of the story: removing animal products from your diet does not in any way guarantee weight loss. The key is either contracting mono (lol) or, on a more sensible and long-term approach, a balaced diet and exercise (both muscle building and cardio).



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After posting I read Essello's message and that's just so right on the money!! Terrific advice.
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I originally went to lose weight but it didn't work. I have since decided the other reasons kreeli mentioned are more important. When I did finally lose weight it was because I started riding my bike more. That couple of miles almost every day helped.
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#21 Old 10-30-2004, 11:44 AM
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About 1.5 months ago, I had quit eating dairy and eggs entirely and I have lost 10 lbs so far, no small feat for me. Being 5'2" it is very easy to look heavy. I feel fantastic though. But i have taken pains to give up a lot of stuff the past 6 months, tho, including soda! I say, it could never hurt to try, right!



I'm only 5'4". I know how the tiniest bit of weight looks like a LOT on us. I quit eating dairy about 2 years ago, when my doctor told me I was lactose intolerant and allergic (makes me break out). But only for about 4 months...then christmas came...and my granny had all sorts of candy and cheese dips..and it was just over for me. Ever since i have not been able to cut out dairy. I don't know what my problem is. I did it then, I don't get why I can't do it now. My willpower is shot, but i'm still tryin!
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When I went vegan, I lost 30 lbs & my cystic acne disappeared. It's been almost 6 mos. now & neither the weight or acne has returned, except briefly when I lost it & went on a Tim Horton's binge.

Returning to my vegan ways quickly got me back to a better weight & quashed the acne.
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