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#1 Old 07-01-2004, 12:58 PM
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So, Ive been doing this vegetarian/vegan thing for about a month, and I SUCK at it. So I decided to make a food diary. I made a document that has a grid, one column for each day, and a row for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and snacks. Then at the bottom I am going to tally up all my servings from the food groups in "Becoming Vegan"'s food pyramid. so thats... grains, veggies, fruits, calcium stuff, and beans/protein stuff.



So I have a question about some of the stuff I eat on a regular basis... Im not sure what category to put them in. I know they are most likely not healthy stuff, but Im working my way up to choosing all healthy stuff, for now I am just trying to choose non-animal foods... so help me categorize these things please :



pickles

salsa (mild)

corn chips

cherrios

pop corn with melted earthbound spread



And if you have any advice... I have a hard time filling the beans/protein cat. because beans make my tummy very unhappy. Thanks.
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#2 Old 07-01-2004, 01:05 PM
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I would put pickles and salsa in veggies. Corn chips, cheerios and popcorn sound like they should go in grains, but the spread should probably be placed with fats.



Honestly, I've found the whole "food group" notion to be problematic, simply because almost everything I eat is a combination of items. I just use fitday.com to calculate total nutrient intake, which is ultimately the important part. (Incidentially, the food groups were designed to "simplify" determining nutrient intake because officials thought Americans weren't able to understand the concept of vitamins, minerals, and macronutrients.)



Oh, and Odwalla has protein food bars that make getting enough easy.



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i would definitely put pickles into some sort of junk category (though they would fit in the vegetable portion of the food pyramid). i don't think they have much nutritional value. salsa could be in the vegetable category because i think it tends to have at least a little vitamin a. corn chips, cheerios, and popcorn would all be classified as grains in the food pyramid, but the only one of those i would count as a grain would be cheerios. i'd stick corn chips and popcorn in a junk category.



the point of food groups is to get all the different types of nutrients generally found in each group by eating some of each. if you process a food to the extent that it loses much of those nutrients, i don't think it's realistic to consider it a part of that basic food group anymore. you're not getting the same things from a pickle as you would from a cucumber.
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#4 Old 07-01-2004, 01:40 PM
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I did something very similar, also using Becoming Vegan's food pyramid. But instead of writing down what I ate (I'm kinda lazy), I made a checklist. I wanted to make sure I got enough servings of fruits, veggies, etc., so I checked them off after I ate them. I didn't worry about tracking junk food, or anything that didn't fit my list. As long as I ate enough of the good foods (whole grains, leafy greens, etc.), I didn't have room for much else!



I'll have to check & see how many servings I had of beans/protein. I don't think it was very many, and I think at least one of mine was always nuts.
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Have you tried using a digestive aid like beano for the beans? Also, I find that rinsing my canned beans really really well makes a difference in how well I digest them. Sometimes they take a while to get used to, too, if you haven't eaten them much in the past.
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Eat whole wheat tortillas, pita, and bread for protein and also brown rice and whole wheat pasta.
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Also, if beans are upsetting your stomach, try to eat nuts and nut butters for protein. I always put walnuts in my oatmeal and then there's many recipes that contain different types of nuts for lunch and dinner entrees.



Also, give it time. Sometimes your body needs to adjust to the new foods you are eating.
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i tried to register at fitday.com but the name bizarro is already taken, LOL! thanks for the link. thats very useful!

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Wow. Those coloumns would intimidate me. maybe you should just keep it simple, like vb style. But a notebook and write each day:

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i dont know. forget it. im *****y.

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You're welcome Let me know if you have any more problems with it; I've run into a couple of weird quirks over the past year that I semi-successfully troubleshot.



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Have you tried using a digestive aid like beano for the beans? Also, I find that rinsing my canned beans really really well makes a difference in how well I digest them. Sometimes they take a while to get used to, too, if you haven't eaten them much in the past.



bean-o contains gelatin (at least, the last time i checked, it did).



udo erasmus (of "udo's oils") makes a completely vegan enzyme mixture that is supposed to help with the digestion of beans and legumes.
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thanks for the info kreeli!



OP~sometimes poor digestion is caused by a magnesium deficiency. you probably need to take a calcium supplement with magnesium and vit D2 in addition to a daily multiple/mineral.

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That's why I said "like Beano"...but I realize it wasn't clear.



Every HFS seems to have some sort of vegan beano.
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