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#1 Old 06-11-2009, 12:16 PM
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Not sure if this is the right thread but I saw a billboard sign today that said nothing but "Ever Had Leprosy? Thanks to animal research you won't"



Is this a pro animal testing advertisement? What do you think of this? It didn't even have a logo or anything from what group or company it was from. It just made me kind of mad and confused me.

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#2 Old 06-12-2009, 09:57 PM
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That's annoying. It does sound pro animal testing.

It's like that stupid tv commercial "there's something VERY wrong with you if you don't like chicken". Everytime I see it I want to throw something at that woman's head on the tv. So irritating.
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#3 Old 06-12-2009, 10:23 PM
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At one point in time, animal research was a nessary evil(one that I've always disagreed with in every way when I discouvered at 9 that they actually did this). They couldn't use humans, becaue that would be just cruel *eye roll*, and the only option left, aside from doing nothing, was to use non-human animals to test medications on.



Now, there really is no justifiable reason to do it. Cheaper methods, that I've read would be just as effective if not even more, exist that are easily accessable by companies. When people talk to me about my veggism, this always comes up, and ignorant people seem to think I'm some sort of lunatic for being fooled into thinking that other ways exist that are safe(which, after they've walked away I always have a good laugh about, because they're the fools for believing that the "traditional" way is keeping unsafe products off the markets).



Ads like this make me feel sick I hope one day soon that animal testing will be found upon by all people, not just veg*ns, and that companies will be required to use newer methods in existance roday.
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#4 Old 06-12-2009, 10:26 PM
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Sounds like a pro animal testing sign to me.



I am kind of curious about Vegans who are required to take certain medications.
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#5 Old 06-12-2009, 10:29 PM
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Sounds like a pro animal testing sign to me.



I am kind of curious about Vegans who are required to take certain medications.



If I didn't take the meds I need I wouldn't be around to protest things like animal testing.
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#6 Old 06-15-2009, 12:43 AM
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I don't find the sign offensive. I'm more interested as to why anyone felt the need to drum up support for animal testing.
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#7 Old 06-17-2009, 11:59 PM
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Ew. I would be furious if I saw that billboard. That is so ridiculous. I do not understand people who justify animal testing (like my mother, ugh). Like I have posted somewhere else before, animals react differently to certain things and so do we! I always use this example: I once washed my dog with Aveda shampoo. He got an allergic reaction (only itchy skin that went away after I rewashed him) and I use it every day, since I have been born with no allergic reaction. If it had been tested on animals, Aveda wouldn't exist. (Or would it, since the USDA still allows bad meat to go on sale)





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#8 Old 06-18-2009, 06:55 AM
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I always use this example: I once washed my dog with Aveda shampoo. He got an allergic reaction (only itchy skin that went away after I rewashed him) and I use it every day, since I have been born with no allergic reaction. If it had been tested on animals, Aveda wouldn't exist.



One dog having an allergic reaction to a protein present in a shampoo would have no more of an effect on testing than one person having an allergic reaction to a protein present in a shampoo.
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#9 Old 06-18-2009, 07:11 AM
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Yeah, usually they test the shampoo on more than one animal or human or whatever else they use.

That would be like taking a poll, but only asking one person :P ahahah.



I also disagree with the sign.



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Well, still. I was just expressing the fact that I do not agree nor do I understand why there STILL needs to be animal testing.
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It is without a doubt a pro-animal testing sign. There are some more offensive ones floating about, including a couple that take potshots at animal advocates.



There exist pro-vivisection lobby groups, primarily funded by companies that sell lab animals and animal research equipment. They don't seem to do a ton of social marketing; after all, vivisection enjoys a more or less untouchable acceptance. Maybe a controversy regarding vivisection has emerged in your city--such as a lab being outed for Animal Welfare Act violations or debate over the construction over a new research center.

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Like I have posted somewhere else before, animals react differently to certain things and so do we! I always use this example:



Examples that people use more often are aspirin and chocolate. They can be toxic to dogs in amounts that would be fine for most humans.

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The Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine has a list of medications which were tested on animals but had adverse effects in humans.



http://www.pcrm.org/resch/anexp/dangerous_med.html
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#14 Old 06-21-2009, 03:40 PM
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Yes there are a few pro animal research groups around. I'm too tired to check out the website



PCRM is like Safer Medicines campaign (formally europeans for medical progress).



That billboard should read something like "because we subjected hundreds (thousands? who knows) of animals to it"
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I would be tempted to add some graffitti...



Got thalidomide? Thanks to animal testing you do.
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By the way, this little gem adornes our walls at work. One day the glass cabinet in which it resides will be unlocked....and come that day...mwahahahaaaaa.



http://www.swaebr.org/images/LittleGirl_lg.jpg
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By the way, this little gem adornes our walls at work. One day the glass cabinet in which it resides will be unlocked....and come that day...mwahahahaaaaa.



http://www.swaebr.org/images/LittleGirl_lg.jpg



"We lost some lab animals but look what we saved." WOW, I don't think I'd be able to show as much restraint as you. I'd put a poster over it, or break in and take it down. It's bad enough they think they "have" to do this garbage, do they REALLY need to promote it???



And the billboards should be "fixed' with some spray paint for sure!
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They didn't "lose" some lab animals. They tortured some lab animals for life and then killed them.

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They didn't "lose" some lab animals. They tortured some lab animals for life and then killed them.



Very well put
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