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#31 Old 02-05-2014, 10:32 AM
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Btw, there is an ethics subforum. I'm not sure if anyone else has done this, but if you're feeling ballsy you might be interested in starting a veganism thread there.

 

There's a veggie one from 2011 :-)

 

http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16951

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What is your favorite fruit, and what is the most you have eaten in one sitting?

 

As far as common fruits, I think I'll have to be really cliche (for a vegan) and say avocado.

 

I'm guessing four or five, in the form of guacamole.  In avocado form, maybe two.

 

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A simple yes or no is sufficient.

Atheism is the lack of belief in (a) higher power(s). 

 

A simple yes or not is not sufficient, because you question was without meaning, and it's still without meaning.

 

The definition of atheism you gave isn't the most common one used when that question is asked- so even there, you should understand how the answer to your question (even making a bunch of assumptions about what you mean) would be different from the answer to "Disbelief in the Biblical God" (which has a lot of assumptions that go with it too, but is what most people mean when they ask the question today).

 

 

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You can call these higher powers whatever you'd like and at the end of the day, regardless of belief system, the majority of people mean the same thing.

 

 

 

No, no they most certainly do not.  Doctrinal differences about what qualifies as a 'god' or even a 'higher power' are so vast you could drive a supertanker through the gaps.

 

It's pretty evident you haven't done your homework ;)

 

People differ dramatically on whether any one or more of these qualities are even required to qualify, of if any are (in which case, you have a non definition):

 

Logical in nature

Illogical in nature

Comprehensible

Inherently incomprehensible to man

Omnipotence (Unlimited, allowing contradictions)

Omnipotence (limited by logic)

Non-omnipotent

Most powerful

Of the most powerful (matched in power by others)

Omniscience (unlimited, with free will)

Omniscience (unlimited, without free will)

Omniscience (limited by logic, with free will)

Omniscience (limited by logic, without free will)

Non-omniscient

Omniscience of the present and past (limited by logic)

Omniscience of the present and past (unlimited)

Omniscience of the past only (limited by logic)

Omniscience of the past only (unlimited)

Transcendence

Existing outside of space and time

Infinite nature

Omnipresence (unlimited)

Omnipresence (limited by logic)

Semi-Omnipresence

Non-physicality

Physicality

Physicality and Non-physicality simultaneously

Un-created

Created

Eternal

Temporal

Immortal

Mortal

Mortal and Immortal

Unchanging

Changeable

Progressively changing

Omnibenevolent (with regards to a fixed notion of good)

Omnibenevolent (by definition, as the arbiter of what is good)

Omnibenevolent (being, by nature, one in the same as good- unlimited by logic)

Omnibenevolent (the above, but limited by logic)

Infinitely Merciful

Infinitely Vengeful

Infinitely Merciful and infinitely vengeful (limited by certain rules and logical consistency)

Infinitely Merciful and infinitely vengeful (unlimited)

Of one nature

Of multiple natures

Of one and multiple natures simultaneously

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All the way down to "having noodly appendages"


 

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Atheism is the lack of belief in (a) higher power(s). 

 

 

 

If the lack of anything resembling a coherent definition of a 'higher power' isn't enough, there's also the matter of what you mean by belief.

 

I'll let you try to figure that one out on your own ;)


 

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I am not an atheist. And I don't know how you have arrived at this assumption.

 

 

And that, sir, is the problem ;)

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laugh.gif An excellent response. I pictured the different varieties of gods as a character selection list in a video game. I'll play as 'having noodley appendages'.

What is your favorite video game?
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laugh.gif An excellent response. I pictured the different varieties of gods as a character selection list in a video game. I'll play as 'having noodley appendages'.

What is your favorite video game?

 

Oh, golly, I'm not much of a video gamer.

 

I guess I fancy puzzle games on the computer- any new and clever ones.

But, I can only play them once, so my favorite is whatever's new, and presents a unique challenge.

 

I don't have any go-to games that I revisit, in terms of things that are replayable, on the computer.

 

I much prefer a face-to-face challenge :)

 

Some video games go beyond game play and veer into the domain of art, though, and in that sense I think we can appreciate them in a very different way (not as just video games)

To that end, I would want to look at what the games accomplish, in terms of sharing an experience, and bringing to bear important moral and social issues.

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laugh.gif An excellent response. I pictured the different varieties of gods as a character selection list in a video game. I'll play as 'having noodley appendages'.

What is your favorite video game?

 

Then Faith Fighter might interest you. I was an avid Ganesha user back in the day. I don't believe the flying spaghetti monster is a playable character though. It only appears occasionally in the background. I hope the game hasn't offended you by doubting the fighting prowess of your god.


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Then Faith Fighter might interest you. I was an avid Ganesha user back in the day. I don't believe the flying spaghetti monster is a playable character though. It only appears occasionally in the background. I hope the game hasn't offended you by doubting the fighting prowess of your god.

Any video game whose final boss is Xenu I will play. Muhammad will see Xenu fall.

@pandiculationco OK, do you have a favorite board game?
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Then Faith Fighter might interest you.

 

I think I saw an article about that.  There was some kind of controversy?

 

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@pandiculationco OK, do you have a favorite board game?

 

Capstan already asked that.  I usually like whatever's new, because I like trying new games.

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Capstan already asked that.  I usually like whatever's new, because I like trying new games.

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Which Olympic event will you be following the most, or you would most like to participate in?
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Which Olympic event will you be following the most, or you would most like to participate in?

 

I don't follow the Olympics much.  Whatever they happen to mention on the news I guess ^_^

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Would you characterize yourself as having, "wanderlust?"


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Would you characterize yourself as having, "wanderlust?"

 

I don't think so.

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I think I saw an article about that.  There was some kind of controversy?

Well, it pits the gods of different religions against each other in an arcade style brawl. It'd be a failure of a game if it didn't anger a few million people.

Some of my Christian friends played the game and liked it though.

Wouldn't it be amazing if religious conflicts could be settled with Faith Fighter tourneys?

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Very important question here:  snowball fight or beach volleyball?

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Very important question here:  snowball fight or beach volleyball?

 

Snowball fight.

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Do you prefer hot or cold weather?

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Do you prefer hot or cold weather?

 

Cold weather- put on layers and enjoy the winter wonder land.

 

Hot weather- hide inside next to air conditioner?

 

 

I'll take cold, on account of I can do something about it ^_^

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Time's up. No more questions please! I'll leave this thread open for a while, so our Star can answer the final personal question. Thanks to all who joined in, and thanks to pandiculationco for a revealing discussion! Our next Celebrity Star is a volunteer! Please check out beanspud's Star interview here!


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