Originally Posted by VA~goth~UK
hey don't mind me for glossin some stuff you said, but allow me to note this instead....
I'm glad I noted that part, good for you!
this I could have chats with you about, despite not having succeeded in this dream either, sinceI think for sure I've given up on the teaching aspect, unless some relevation of mind happens to me to make me have a rethink, BUT as for Japan in general, I love the country, and haven't been yet, but I try to make friends there, ones which are vegan!... and its difficult there as many will tell you, but no impossible as vegan if you are really determined I gather is true, depending I guess which region you go and whether you are near to a city with a range of products anywhere near likely to contain vegan sources of food.
Btw: is your experience of Japan first hand witness of having been to Japan, are you there now??
Tahnk you for your help, Goth. I am seriously going crazy here! I guess it is just that for two years now I have been the strictest of Vegans. I started out mad at myself, and then I began to critisize meat eaters, and then I even began critisizing other veggies for not being as strict as I. I was so "born" to the cause that I remember getting so upset over accidently consuming milk that I tried to make myself throw-up while I cried over it profusely.
Anyway, those times have passed. I am not as "born" to the cause anymore in an obsessive way! My brother has been in college for three years on his Japanese studies thus far. I am going into the exact same program, and from what he has told me, there are so many things containing fish there that he wanted to gain a head-start on the fact that his life will most likely change. Don't get me wrong, he still cares - as I do - about the welfare of animals, but he did not want to get to Japan in about a year and starve himself because he was unprepared for the change.
What brought this all about is this: This summer my brother went to a language college to further study Japanese. He was the only Vegan there, and he said that he had to eat rice everyday because that was pretty much all that they had! They had veggies, but most of them had fish in them.
Joshua told me about the vegetarians in the school. He told me that most of them had been to Japan, and it was pretty rough and tough for vegetarians because they use so much fish and eggs!
All of this made me think for a long, long time. Lately it has been coming a realization for me that I may have to change my lifestyle. While I truly feel bad for saying it, I may just have to suck it up and become pescetarian in the end - or at least an ovo-vegetarian or something. Like I said, I wish so badly to get to Japan.
I know how you all feel about fish consumption, so please do not jump to conclusions. Right now nothing is final! ... I am considering everything, but I truly need some help here. After two years of veganism, I guess I just fear going back. I feel like I am giving up on what I believe in simply to follow a deep-embedded dream.
As I said, I could never consume the flesh of any animal - HOWEVER, while I understand that fish is technically an animal, I may have to adapt to eating it in a few years, unless things all of a sudden change in Japan. So, I just feel like, to minimize future ripping apart of my very being, maybe I should BEGIN to accept it now and begin to be "less-strict".
Now, you may wonder: "What do you mean less-strict?"
Well... I mean I will stop being so harsh on the whole honey debate. Also, eggs: Maybe I should not use them all the time, but maybe once in a while would be ok? ... I guess I am thinking, mostly, about going semi-vegan.
As I said, cows milk makes me sick! However, if someone makes some cookies... I guess I am asking if I would be terrible to have a few. I will still purchase and consume soy or rice milks (alternatives), and I can not stand any cheese, vegan or not (but I do wish to at least try goat cheese if I actually decide on going less-strict).
To sum it all up: I would still eat Vegan when I am the one making the food. However, when I go out and have a vegetarian dish, I often have ot get the people to make it special for me so that it does not contain any dairy and egg. I would just eat it how it is if I decide upon this new change here.
Thanks a lot again! Sorry to all those that I have rediculed in the past. I think I do now know how it felt. Hell, my own being is ripping two ways inside of me.
In conclusion: Meat=NO ... But dairy and eggs when others fix me things?...
(( My brother and I recently went to a Japanese resteraunt, and he later told me - last night, when I was explaing my mixed feelings with him - that the soup that we had gotten had squid inside of it, despite having ordered it as veg. He said that he did not tell me, because he knew that I would get upset. Surprizingly, I didn't.... Infact, I had liked the soup. There is another reason that I am considering all of this. Again, I do not want to all of a sudden start eating fish - don't get me wrong - but if it happens to accidently get into things that I can not control, I have ceased to care. I mean, now that I know, I probably will not eat that soup again, but I just wasn't torn up about it. I simply shrugged and said, " Damn... That was good soup too, eh? "