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#31 Old 07-16-2006, 11:15 AM
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Thank you Tom! That was exactly what I was looking for. And your little "example" make perfect sense to me. I had used more extreme examples, but you hit the nail on the head. To me, you cannot be a part-time vegetarian. You either are...or you aren't. Now, the degree of your vegetarianism may differ, but thanks again for you words of wisdom!

I thought Seusomon's point was the opposite to what you are saying.

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Sometimes the terms get tiring..Every time you turn around there is a new one...I remember (cuz I also am "older than dirt" )when if a person did not eat meat, (anything that had a face) they were called a vegetarian..Anything else was called cutting back...But that was MANY years ago...
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One reason for that is that people don't appreciate being served fish in restaurants after they've told they're vegetarian.



How many people are served fish after telling their server they're vegetarian?

Don't you usually place an order before being served something?





In any case, I think that ANY reduction in meat consumption is great. IME, Americans eat meat twice a day. If someone wants to reduce their consumption of meat to twice a week and call themselves flexitarian, by all means - go for it.
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#34 Old 07-16-2006, 11:49 AM
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My emphasis

I totally agree. Yes, vegans are SO deprived. The article was way biased.

AS far as 'flextarian' goes, it's someone desperate to attach a label to their lifestyle.

If you don't eat meat, you're a vegetarian. If you do, even part time, you're not. That simple.

So now anyone who doesn't eat meat EVERY meal is a part time vegetarian?

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I second veggiejanie.

Being a vegetarian is a commitment. If you break the commitment, you are no longer a vegetarian. If you recommit yourself, you are. It doesn't have to "wear off". That's silly.

Flexiarian basically means omnivore. It doesn't matter if you willingly plan to eat meat only once a year, you're still not commited to living a live free of dead animals so you're still an omnivore.

Oh and the reason no one refers to themselves as an omni outside this board? Because they call themselves "normal". They don't need to have a term for how they eat because they can eat just about anything anyplace serves. As would a "flexitarian" which makes the term useless and stupid.

Why do you need a term to describe the fact that you eat like the other 95% of the population?

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Very well said, Mary!
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Being a vegetarian is a commitment.



Says who? Is this rule written down somewhere? Can I get a copy?





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It doesn't have to "wear off". That's silly.

Flexiarian basically means omnivore. It doesn't matter if you willingly plan to eat meat only once a year, you're still not commited to living a live free of dead animals so you're still an omnivore.



Again, bull****. The AR side doesn't get to determine what constitutes being a vegetarian.
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Again, bull****. The AR side doesn't get to determine what constitutes being a vegetarian.



Look up the word in the dictionary. Does it say one that occasionally eats meat?
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The AR side doesn't get to determine what constitutes being a vegetarian.



It scares me when I agree with Tame. Are there meds I can take?
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Look up the word in the dictionary. Does it say one that occasionally eats meat?



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you're still not commited to living a live free of dead animals so you're still an omnivore.



I don't see anything in the dictionary that says that a vegetarian must commit to a life free of dead animals.
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Look up the word in the dictionary. Does it say one that occasionally eats meat?





I know it doesn't say dick about a making a commitment.



Let's say someone is veg for a year. They eat a piece of shrimp. How long does it take to become veg again? I mean, you guys claim to know these rules, it would certainly help if the rest of us could see them sometime.
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It scares me when I agree with Tame. Are there meds I can take?





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I don't see anything in the dictionary that says that a vegetarian must commit to a life free of dead animals.

Whether it's in the dictionary or not (dictionaries don't fully capture meanings anyway) and whether that's the correct formulation or not (it isn't), some notion of intention, commitment or "habituality" has to be built into the definition. Otherwise someone being held in prison and fed only water and bread is a "vegetarian".

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I don't see anything in the dictionary that says that a vegetarian must commit to a life free of dead animals.

I don't see anything in the dictionary claiming animals can become plants simply because a self professed "vegetarian" eats them.

A vegetarian does not eat dead animals. At all. They don't eat them sometimes or on special occasions or when they're at a BBQ and the only other thing to eat is pickles. If you eat meat sometimes, you're an omnivore (assuming you eat veggies and fruits). Even if it's just once a year.

What is so hard to understand about that? Honestly?

I guess if you only eat turkey on Thanksgiving you could call yourself a vegetarian 364 days of the year. I don't know. It seems silly.

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Oh i agree to an extent. But I don't agree that the commitment or intent has to be for life. If someone says "I'm going to go veg for a year then see how things go" I call that person vegetarian.
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I don't see anything in the dictionary claiming animals can become plants simply because a self professed "vegetarian" eats them.

A vegetarian does not eat dead animals. At all. They don't eat them sometimes or on special occasions or when they're at a BBQ and the only other thing to eat is pickles. If you eat meat sometimes, you're an omnivore (assuming you eat veggies and fruits). Even if it's just once a year.

What is so hard to understand about that? Honestly?

I guess if you only eat turkey on Thanksgiving you could call yourself a vegetarian 364 days of the year. I don't know. It seems silly.

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I am still waiting for you to cite a source stating that a vegetarian must commit to a lifetime of not eating animals.



Step up, or retract your statement.
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A vegetarian does not eat dead animals. At all.



I don't think there is anyone who doesn't eat animals. At best you don't eat them intentionally.
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Oh i agree to an extent. But I don't agree that the commitment or intent has to be for life. If someone says "I'm going to go veg for a year then see how things go" I call that person vegetarian.



So would I. Maybe I just saw my use of the word commitment a little differently. I think anyone who eats veggies most of the time but will eat meat whenever they are in a situation where it's being served is an omnivore. Nothing about the definition of an omnivore states you eat meat most of the time. I just think a vegetarian has resolved to cut meat out of their lives for whatever length of time. I know lots of people give it trial periods BUT during that period they have decided not to consume meat. It's not like they say "Well I won't buy it but if I'm out somewhere I'll eat it there". A flexatarian has made no resolution to cut meat OUT just down. It's not a bad thing, but they're still omnivores by definition.

Clear as mud? I didn't really mean commitment to mean for life, honestly.

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I didn't really mean commitment to mean for life, honestly.



Really? Yet you said:

"you're still not commited to living a live free of dead animals"



So, if a person eats meat once in a period of 3 years, they can't call themelves a vegetarian? Ever again?



BTW, as I am vegetarian for personal health reasons, I have made, and never will make, a commitment to anyone regarding what I do or do not eat. It would be appreciated if you did not project your views on to the rest of us.
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This isn't hard to understand, Tame...
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Veganism in itself is not just a diet thing. I am I dietary vegan because of my choice of food, but a true vegan divorces himself (herself) as much as humanly possible from the use of all animal products or byproducts.
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You have got to be kidding me?

What kind of a moniker is that.

Have an inferiority complex, or what?
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ooooh boy.... *breaks out the popcorn*
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Veganism in itself is not just a diet thing. I am I dietary vegan because of my choice of food, but a true vegan divorces himself (herself) as much as humanly possible from the use of all animal products or byproducts.



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You have got to be kidding me?

What kind of a moniker is that.



A fan-damn-tastic one.



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Have an inferiority complex, or what?



What.
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ooooh boy.... *breaks out the popcorn*



!! *hands 4evergrounded the twizzlers*
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This isn't hard to understand, Tame...





It doesn't seem that you or Mary understand it considering that you seem unable to answer my questions.
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!! *hands 4evergrounded the twizzlers*

oooh Twizzerls! My favourite. Thanks! *starts munching*



Want some popcorn? *shares with purrpelle*
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mmm. popcorn.



thanks!
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It doesn't seem that you or Mary understand it considering that you seem unable to answer my questions.



Meh.



*grabs some Twizzlers*



Wait, are those vegan?
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Meh.



*grabs some Twizzlers*



Wait, are those vegan?



According to Peta.com.

Personally, I'd prefer the popcorn but I'm not sure where the entertainment is!

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Sweet. Well, I'll take some popcorn, too. When is the movie starting?
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It already did.



*waits for your response to Tame's question*
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