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#1 Old 06-30-2005, 08:34 PM
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I've been browsing the posts here and noticed a lot of you seem to think that vegetarians/vegans are healthier just because they don't eat meat. This is not so. I think it's because vegetarians/vegans are more health conscious on average than most meat-eaters. But, that doesn't mean you can't be healthy and eat meat. A lot of meat-eaters are overweight and don't exercise. Those two play a big part in getting diseases. I think if you stick mostly to lean meats and exercise, you can be just as healthy as any vegetarian.
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#2 Old 06-30-2005, 08:36 PM
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Ok.

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#3 Old 06-30-2005, 08:38 PM
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There can be healthy meat eaters, there can also be unhealthy vegetarians. If a meat eater eats lots of veggies and gets exercise then yes they could be more healthy than a vegetarian who eats junk food and gets no exercise. Just depends on the person.
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#4 Old 07-01-2005, 12:02 AM
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Exactly. Nobody said meat-eaters had to be unhealthy, nobody said veg*ns had to be healthy.
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Tell me something I DON'T already know.
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Thanks for that. . . reality check.
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#7 Old 07-01-2005, 03:38 AM
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I agree.



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#8 Old 07-01-2005, 06:08 AM
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I agree. I also think that most of the people here are healthier than the general population. We've joined a discussion board devoted to our diets! It stands to reason that we care about what we we eat on several different levels.
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*hides her gin & tonic and potato chips*



nothing to see here... move along, please, move along... *whistling*
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I agree with the OP's post. It isn't shocking or new information, but nessesary to say once in a while.



However, I don't think I fully agree with this statement:

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I think it's because vegetarians/vegans are more health conscious on average than most meat-eaters.



I know I am "healthy" not because of I choose to eat healthy. Heck, if I could get a donut every day I would. Same goes for TV dinners. And fast food.



But... they don't make that stuff vegan. So I eat healthy because (almost) all the damn ready-made vegan food is also cross marketed to "health conscious" individuals.



Well, I am not health conscious. This summer, I've taken steps to eat at least a pint of Vegan Ice Cream a day. However, overall, I still end up eating healthy because (besides the political aversion) the only thing that keeps me away from eating Arby's every day is the fact that their sandwiches aren't vegan.
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*hides her gin & tonic and potato chips*



Yeah, I think that secret was let out of the bag long ago.

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Well, I am not health conscious. This summer, I've taken steps to eat at least a pint of Vegan Ice Cream a day. However, overall, I still end up eating healthy because (besides the political aversion) the only thing that keeps me away from eating Arby's every day is the fact that their sandwiches aren't vegan.



L...m...a...o.



Ahhhhh.
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Well, I am not health conscious. This summer, I've taken steps to eat at least a pint of Vegan Ice Cream a day. However, overall, I still end up eating healthy because (besides the political aversion) the only thing that keeps me away from eating Arby's every day is the fact that their sandwiches aren't vegan.

L...m...a...o.



Ahhhhh.

Now only if their marketers get wind of that...

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*hides her gin & tonic and potato chips*



nothing to see here... move along, please, move along... *whistling*





*makes a dash for the gin and chips. Leaves the tonic behind.
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I don't mind being reminded that some omnis can be healthier than some veg*ans. What I do mind is being told that I'm some sort of snobby jerk who's going to die soon because I don't get any nutrients on my vegan diet by people who: 1) Have no idea what I eat overall and base their statement on misinformation and the fact that the ONE time they see me eating I'm having a salad, and 2) come onto VB and register just so they can flame veg*ans. *





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I'm really confused.



I thought meat consumption was linked to cancer, diabeties, ect... so, is it that when you're obese from meat consumption, the risks are raised like this?
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Meat consumption *is* linked to an increased risk of cancer, diabeties, heart disease, incontinence, impotence and loads of other things. Processed meats bring moreso of a risk.



Some of them will grill, broil or roast this meat which is brings its own set of risks because of the carcinogenic affects that some of the these cooking methods bring.



In all my time of reading health articles and medical newsletters, I've not read one thing saying "eat more meat to cut the risk of ______". Usually, the gist of the statements are that a person should eat more fruits, veggies, whole grains, nuts, seeds, beans, legumes and deep leafy greens and stay away from the processed / refined foods. If a person bases their diet around this, they will be healthy but most meat-eaters won't base their diet around this - they'll stick to the meat and 3 veg method or their processed quickie foods which doesn't provide enough, IMO.



And all the meat-eaters I know eat waaaaaaaaaay more than the recommended 3oz of meat per day. Usually, it's more in the ballpark of 6-12 ounces per meal that's more the norm and believe me, more is NOT better.



Lean meats, IMO are no better than their fatty counterparts except in the only case of reduced fat. They still carry risks and they still are linked to a number of ailments. And the animals are still injected with growth hormones, bulk enhancers, anti-biotics and steroids in order for them to be ready for market in a shortened amount of time.
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