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McVegan Burger Debuts at McDonald's
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International fast-food giant McDonald’s introduced the McVegan burger to the menu this week at its Tampere, Finland location. The vegan as-is burger is made with a soy patty and is served with an eggless “McFeast” sauce, while vegan French fries—baked in vegetable oil in a separate cooking pot—are available as a side. Christoffer Rönnblad, marking director of McDonald’s in Finland, told Finnish media outlet MTV that the burger is part of a trial to test for customer demand, and its success will determine whether McDonald’s introduces the plant-based option worldwide. “At least the feedback that we have quickly received, and what reception has been online yesterday and already the other day,” Rönnblad said, “it has been quite positive. We are going to be positive in this test.” In May, McDonald’s added the vegan-friendly “McVeggie”—made vegan by removing cheese—to its menus in locations across Norway.
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This is amazing news! I love the name.
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I wonder if there is any chance that it is not fried on the same grill as the meat.
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Wow. I am sure it is filled with processed soy and oil and likely as fattening as a beef burger BUT I am glad to see the option I guess. I still think supporting fast food establishments is not a great idea but that is just me.
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Wow. I am sure it is filled with processed soy and oil and likely as fattening as a beef burger BUT I am glad to see the option I guess. I still think supporting fast food establishments is not a great idea but that is just me.
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but why Finland. Are there a lot of vegans in Finland? I think if they wanted it to succeed they would put it in San Francisco.
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Sounds interesting. Wish they'd make their normal fries vegan... but then I'm probably healthier consuming less fried potato products:P
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They could veganize the whole menu and I'd likely still steer clear...of all fast food joints. I can't get the all too vivid memories of the stomach turning smells and the multiple events of me almost falling on their floors a few times from the slick greasy film that seems to remain, while also imagining the residue it left behind in my guts. In a pinch, with absolutely no other options, perhaps, but I think I'd rather fall back on my newfound abilities to fast before I'd choose to give them my money.
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I get that all health concious folks aren't going to McDonalds, either omni or veg, but we need to look at the introduction of a vegan more as an addition to their menu. It doesn't need to be marketed exclusively towards vegans, but to include them as well as give meateaters another choice. For omnis it would be a healthier choice. For veg'ns it would an option
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Sounds interesting. Wish they'd make their normal fries vegan... but then I'm probably healthier consuming less fried potato products:P
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I get that all health concious folks aren't going to McDonalds, either omni or veg, but we need to look at the introduction of a vegan more as an addition to their menu. It doesn't need to be marketed exclusively towards vegans, but to include them as well as give meateaters another choice. For omnis it would be a healthier choice. For veg'ns it would an option
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It's a public forum and unless it's specifically stated by the OP to only comment if you fully support and plan to partake in something, all opinions/input are welcomed, as far as I understand things, obviously as long as they aren't breaking the rules or spamming.
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It's a public forum and unless it's specifically stated by the OP to only comment if you fully support and plan to partake in something, all opinions/input are welcomed, as far as I understand things, obviously as long as they aren't breaking the rules or spamming.
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I could as well tell you how awful your food choices sound, that I would have never become vegan if those were my only offerings, but I don't, not because it's prohibited, but it's not my place to be critical of your choices.
It seemed obvious to me that this wasn't a thread to voice opinions of personal criticisms of McDonalds, but rather the news that one of the largest fast food venues is considering vegans in their offerings.
I don't like McDonalds, but you can bet I'm thrilled! Why so many whole health plant based eaters feel such a need to disparage vegans gains is simply beyond me.
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I understood silva, when saying "your input isn't needed", was referring to going to McDonalds as an unhappy vegan customer, rather than adding a negative post to the thread. "Discouraging other members from posting" is against VB rules, not the kind of thing that an esteemed moderator like silva would get involved in.
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It's a step in the right direction.
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I think most countries beat the US in the area of healthy options (save for maybe California), many European countries have definitely been more health conscious than the US for a long time. We are just catching up.
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I don't think it could be as un-healthy as a beef burger.
but why Finland. Are there a lot of vegans in Finland? I think if they wanted it to succeed they would put it in San Francisco. |
I might have read somewhere that that particular part of Finland has a vegan community with established vegan venues.
But then again there are other countries around the world with greater numbers of vegans so why could they not have tested them there?
Doesn't McDonald's have different menus based on region of the country in America? I don't see why they couldn't have tried it out in San Diego or L.A., I guarantee it would have been a hit since a lot of people like McDonald's fries and those are vegan.
It probably won't come to the U.S. but I applaud their effort.
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Doesn't McDonald's have different menus based on region of the country in America? I don't see why they couldn't have tried it out in San Diego or L.A., I guarantee it would have been a hit since a lot of people like McDonald's fries and those are vegan.
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According to the interweb, McDonald's fries in the US currently have milk hidden in the ingredients so not vegan.
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I've always thought they tasted like crap when I was omni
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I didn't know about dairy, but McDonalds fries still have beef as flavoring!
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It's pretty funny/interesting. McDonalds fries (chips) have different recipes in different countries. In the UK, McDonalds fries are officially approved by the Vegetarian Society! https://www.mcdonalds.com/gb/en-gb/p...es-medium.html
McDonalds India has a "McAloo" burger (patty made from potatoes and peas), as well as a "Maharaja Mac" veggie burger:
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According to the interweb, McDonald's fries in the US currently have milk hidden in the ingredients so not vegan.
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Oh well, haven't eaten McD fries in a long time anyways.
But the McDonald's Canada site mentions that their fries are vegan. So it must vary depending on country/region as mentioned above.
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According to the interweb, McDonald's fries in the US currently have milk hidden in the ingredients so not vegan.
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They used to use beef lard in their french fry oil. but I think they stopped but not use some beef flavoring in their seasoning.
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McDonald's website says that their fries are not vegetarian or vegan.
They used to use beef lard in their french fry oil. but I think they stopped but not use some beef flavoring in their seasoning. |
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McDonald's website says that their fries are not vegetarian or vegan.
They used to use beef lard in their french fry oil. but I think they stopped but not use some beef flavoring in their seasoning. |
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They're different in different countries. In US they do use beef flavoring-real beef
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So far off the top of my head I know Del Taco (a west coast chain) has vegan crinkle style fries.
Now going to search online for more vegan friendly fries options.
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I think if everyone boycotted fast food as an industry, factory farming would cave in on itself.
That being said, this is kind of the “don’t ask, don’t tell” of food..? Not the greatest idea, but a big step in the right direction. Anytime veganism is mainstreamed in any way at all makes us appear more normal, therefore more acceptable, more approachable, more likely to be able to persuade people to take a look into veganism.
That being said, this is kind of the “don’t ask, don’t tell” of food..? Not the greatest idea, but a big step in the right direction. Anytime veganism is mainstreamed in any way at all makes us appear more normal, therefore more acceptable, more approachable, more likely to be able to persuade people to take a look into veganism.
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Five Guys has my favorite fried in peanut oil! They also have malt vinegar!
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I'd like to see someone make a vegan big mac that tastes and looks virtually identical to an actual big mac and then sell it outside a Mcdonalds for the same price and then interview people there and film this and put it online. Although I also would not be surprised if someone has already done this.
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I'd like to see someone make a vegan big mac that tastes and looks virtually identical to an actual big mac and then sell it outside a Mcdonalds for the same price and then interview people there and film this and put it online. Although I also would not be surprised if someone has already done this.
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Originally Posted by Jamie in Chile
I'd like to see someone make a vegan big mac that tastes and looks virtually identical to an actual big mac and then sell it outside a Mcdonalds for the same price and then interview people there and film this and put it online. Although I also would not be surprised if someone has already done this.
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I love that idea!
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Five Guys has my favorite fried in peanut oil! They also have malt vinegar!
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