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#61 Old 01-22-2016, 11:12 AM
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True. I wonder what's easier... to quit smoking or meat? With meat he can eat quern. Smoking you have to give it up altogether.
Doesn't do much good to sit and ponder these things. A physician can refer your dad to a stop-smoking program. A Registered Dietitian can help your dad to adopt a healthier diet.
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#62 Old 01-22-2016, 11:25 AM
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Doesn't do much good to sit and ponder these things. A physician can refer your dad to a stop-smoking program. A Registered Dietitian can help your dad to adopt a healthier diet.
I *do* feel better being vegetarian than omni, personally.
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#63 Old 01-22-2016, 12:43 PM
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My dad interestingly enough owns no leather.
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#64 Old 01-22-2016, 03:48 PM
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I've been around the block with this.....

Tried fake meats after going veg*n, then quit them.

Last month, (for some reason), started eating them again.

Now I'm disgusted with the idea, and am going to stop again.

It's like e-cigarettes vs. smoking.

I see no need to replace something that was disgusting in the first place.

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#65 Old 01-22-2016, 04:10 PM
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Why do you think of them as fake meats?
I get that you might not want to eat processed foods, but they're plant based, and not fake
I really dislike the idea that vegan foods have to be "whole food plant based".
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#66 Old 01-22-2016, 05:07 PM
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Why do you think of them as fake meats?
I get that you might not want to eat processed foods, but they're plant based, and not fake
I really dislike the idea that vegan foods have to be "whole food plant based".
Me too. Some people don't particularly care about healthy foods as much as not eating animals. And for transitioning when people are craving fat and salty tastes, they serve a purpose.

My very healthy son just made a stir fry tonight with tons of vegetables (some fresh, some frozen), chick peas, and seared gardein chikken strips over brown and wild rice. (I had mine before he added the chikken because I can't tolerate soy. If I could I would have eaten it.)
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#67 Old 01-22-2016, 07:29 PM
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Liquin. Quorn tastes exactly like the ass end of the Hrikingenkrlsinee ungulate (a docile and gentle blue animal) residing in the planetary system of Kllr!!!ggorottufug. Thank the Lord of Gtklwedf, it is simply a deceptive chemically created simulation designed to pleasurify the Vegan taste bud system. WTF did you think the Arizona Lights were? They were delivering VEgan Meaaaaaaaat.
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#68 Old 01-23-2016, 05:03 AM
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@liquin do you know how to cook a bit and have access to a kitchen? If so, try a recipe like this sometime. http://www.veggieful.com/2013/07/veg...ecipe.html?m=1
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#69 Old 01-23-2016, 06:22 AM
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Yeah. I'm getting used to quorn
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#71 Old 01-23-2016, 08:54 AM
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Assuming you're not trolling (probably a big leap), I'll proffer. Meat is full of fat and veins and blood. Kinda hard to replicate those flavors, and attempting to do so would be an odious pursuit imo.

If your diet is 'fake meat'-based, you're doing it wrong. Ideally veg*nism is opening you up to a vast array of whole foods. Foods which ingredients are what it is. That being said, the ease and comfort of prepared stuff is great every once in a while. Not sure where you live, but Quorn products generally look pretty unappetizing - and since they don't offer anything vegan, I avoid them regardless. Gardein has some amazing stuff. Their 'fish' fillets taste like the 'real thing', fwiw. Though that's more in testament of their texture. I don't want things to taste like death. I'd rather learn to better season the plant-based things I eat.
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#72 Old 01-23-2016, 09:16 AM
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I don't want things to taste like death.
Death doesn't have a taste which is why when I went veggie 21 years ago, I wasn't giving up on taste. There's nothing intrinsically "wrong" about a taste.
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#73 Old 01-23-2016, 09:28 AM
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Actually, a lot of vegetarian and vegan meat analogues ("fake meats", if you prefer) are acceptably close to the real thing, as far as I'm concerned. Maybe they're not so close to actual animal flesh that someone would not be able to tell the difference, but if so, what of it?
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Death doesn't have a taste which is why when I went veggie 21 years ago, I wasn't giving up on taste. There's nothing intrinsically "wrong" about a taste.
The fat and blood from a dead animal's flesh are huge components of the flavor makeup. I was being a tad hyperbolic, but I love animals and am glad my poop is no longer haunted
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Death doesn't have a taste which is why when I went veggie 21 years ago, I wasn't giving up on taste. There's nothing intrinsically "wrong" about a taste.
it does have a smell, IMO...the smells of some meats cooking smells like death to me...like chicken, and bacon. Probably a supernatural thing.
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I've found many years ago, that meat tasted and smelled like the poop the animal produces. There is no real differance between smelling a steak on the grill and driving past a feelot.
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I've found many years ago, that meat tasted and smelled like the poop the animal produces. There is no real differance between smelling a steak on the grill and driving past a feelot.

?!?!?!

As someone who has cleaned up a lot of different kinds of poop over the course of my lifetime, I can't say that I have found this to be even remotely true.
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I see what you did there...

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#81 Old 01-24-2016, 08:33 AM
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My dad enjoyed the Linda McCartney sausages. Damn right!
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Myself and my dad enjoyed the linda mccartney sausages... but my dad still said he slightly prefers the meat/real thing. He DID really enjoy them, though. Why does he prefer the real thing?
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#83 Old 01-24-2016, 11:10 AM
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Not to be unkind, but rather than asking several strangers, why not ask your dad?
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#84 Old 01-24-2016, 06:06 PM
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Probably because he is accustomed to the taste and fattiness of meat sausage. I am glad he is eating the faux meats with you, lots of parents wouldn't.

Does he know this:

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"Almost 50 percent of sausage is made from processed left over parts of a pig including blood, guts, organs and, of course, head meat.
Blood sausage, popular in some European countries and Argentina, is made with 2 cups of porks blood per recipe.
Some sausage casings are made from cattle hide."

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He doesn't think: "Meat is Murder".

My usual answer: I have never heard a convincing reason to eat meat.
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#86 Old 01-25-2016, 02:43 AM
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We really can't answer these questions for you. We don't know why your dad likes certain things but not others. You should have a conversation with your dad if you're curious.
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Probably because he is accustomed to the taste and fattiness of meat sausage. I am glad he is eating the faux meats with you, lots of parents wouldn't.

Does he know this:

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"Almost 50 percent of sausage is made from processed left over parts of a pig including blood, guts, organs and, of course, head meat.
Blood sausage, popular in some European countries and Argentina, is made with 2 cups of porks blood per recipe.
Some sausage casings are made from cattle hide."

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/what-...n_2272807.html
True. It's something at least. He said he prefers the real thing.
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#88 Old 01-25-2016, 08:29 AM
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My mum's eating fish... my dad ate quorn atleast.
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#89 Old 01-25-2016, 11:05 AM
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I eat Linda sausages at least once a week. I can polish off an entire box by myself in one sitting, which I'm not sure is something to brag about.
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I just ate some oatmeal.
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