Veggie Regular
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In the newly revised Australian Dietary Guidelines released this week, Australia’s top health experts now agree with leading health advisory boards in the U.S. and Canada that well-planned vegan diets are a safe, healthy and viable option for all age groups. Government health experts worldwide are finally catching up with the large body of scientific evidence demonstrating that a vegan diet is not only a viable option for people of any age, but that eating plant foods instead of animal-based foods can confer significant health benefits, including reduction in incidence of obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, heart attack, stroke, and some types of cancer.
In 2009, the American Academy of Nutrition & Dietetics, the U.S.’s oldest, largest and foremost authority on diet and nutrition, also recognized that humans have no inherent biological or nutritional need for animals products: “It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes.”
In 2009, the American Academy of Nutrition & Dietetics, the U.S.’s oldest, largest and foremost authority on diet and nutrition, also recognized that humans have no inherent biological or nutritional need for animals products: “It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes.”
Read the rest: http://freefromharm.org/health-nutrition/catching-up-with-science-burying-the-humans-need-meat-argument/#sthash.MCayQvXG.DcMawpGR.dpuf
This is fantastic news, go Australia!
It amazes me that even today in 2013 I still get arguments from people saying that humans NEED meat and you can't possibly be healthy without animal flesh. What am I then, a ghost? A figment of my own imagination?
"If we could live happy and healthy lives without harming others... why wouldn't we?" - Edgars Mission
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Lifelong vegetarian
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,617
Rest In Peas.
My usual answer: I have never heard a convincing reason to eat meat.
Poo Pie Head
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 484
Woots! Another voice in our direction from experts who are (finally) listening to science and evidence.
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Veggie Regular
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Earth
Posts: 237
I'm tempted to post this in a certain forum I have been on in the past, in which the majority of people there say they were once vegans--ranging from less than a year to almost twenty years--and found that their health began to suffer and they needed to go back to eating meat. These people are SO insistent that they are living proof of the human "need" for meat. It bugs the heck outta me.
But if I did post it, they wouldn't listen anyway, so...
Veggie Regular
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 456
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“It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes.”
Two observations here:
- The planning! It reads to me that vegetarian or vegan diets require planning and one could infer than an omni diet does not? This does dovetail with the "it was convenient" on the headstone.
- Vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of life - why not vegan? Does this mean vegan diets are not appropriate? If they are lumping vegan with vegetarian why do they name them separately in the first sentence.
While I'm happy with the premise, the presentation could be better. The statement smacks of "cover my axe" - I wish they would come out with it in plain English without all the qualifiers.
Banned
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: California
Posts: 2,108
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Vegetarian and vegan diets do require planning, at least initially, where as the "planning" was done automatically via the culture in the case of omnivorous diets.Originally Posted by Siv 
- The planning! It reads to me that vegetarian or vegan diets require planning and one could infer than an omni diet does not? This does dovetail with the "it was convenient" on the headstone.
- The planning! It reads to me that vegetarian or vegan diets require planning and one could infer than an omni diet does not? This does dovetail with the "it was convenient" on the headstone.
While planning is important for those converting to vegetarian or vegan as adults, kids that are raised veg*n will automatically pick it up.
Veggie Regular
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,032
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Originally Posted by Siv
Two observations here:
- The planning! It reads to me that vegetarian or vegan diets require planning and one could infer than an omni diet does not? This does dovetail with the "it was convenient" on the headstone.
Two observations here:
- The planning! It reads to me that vegetarian or vegan diets require planning and one could infer than an omni diet does not? This does dovetail with the "it was convenient" on the headstone.
Yeah, I could understand that. I kind of took it, that it was a statement in general focusing on vegetarian diets, not implying anything about omni diets. Although if it were, it's unfortunate, because I don't think the SAD is "healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases."
I feel like they could just state that:
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appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes.
It just seems like a well planned or appropriately planned diet of any kind is appropriate.
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Originally Posted by Siv
- Vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of life - why not vegan? Does this mean vegan diets are not appropriate? If they are lumping vegan with vegetarian why do they name them separately in the first sentence.
- Vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of life - why not vegan? Does this mean vegan diets are not appropriate? If they are lumping vegan with vegetarian why do they name them separately in the first sentence.
I assumed that's why they specified:
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in the previous sentence. A vegan diet is still a vegetarian diet, they just didn't want to repeat that and already specified it in the first sentence.vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets
At least that's my take on it.
I believe everything.
Veggie Regular
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 456
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Originally Posted by nogardsram
A vegan diet is still a vegetarian diet, they just didn't want to repeat that and already specified it in the first sentence.
At least that's my take on it.
A vegan diet is still a vegetarian diet, they just didn't want to repeat that and already specified it in the first sentence.
At least that's my take on it.
You definitely clear up point 2 - I see it as not valid now that I have re-read it with your explanation.
Veggie Regular
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Earth
Posts: 237
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Originally Posted by Siv
Two observations here:
- The planning! It reads to me that vegetarian or vegan diets require planning and one could infer than an omni diet does not? This does dovetail with the "it was convenient" on the headstone.
- Vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of life - why not vegan? Does this mean vegan diets are not appropriate?
Omnivorous diets do require adequate planning though, as is evinced in the millions of omnis who eat terribly and pay the consequences with their health. Society just doesn't focus as much on the need to plan out omnivorous diets because they are the norm and as such are not viewed as anything but inherently adequate and healthy.
It does say that vegan and total vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of life, it's just off-set by commas right after the part I bolded.
Lifelong vegetarian
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,617
The health, environmental, ecological and economic problems that meat eaters are causing is collateral damage.
My usual answer: I have never heard a convincing reason to eat meat.
Beginner
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 118
This is great!
I've been so tired of people telling me I 'need' meat. I chose to be vegetarian for animal rights reasons but as soon as I cut out meat I have felt much healthier and more energetic. This definitely supports what I've seen with my own body!
Veggie Regular
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: BC, Canada
Posts: 16,664
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Originally Posted by erika20
This is great!
I've been so tired of people telling me I 'need' meat. I chose to be vegetarian for animal rights reasons but as soon as I cut out meat I have felt much healthier and more energetic. This definitely supports what I've seen with my own body!
This is great!
I've been so tired of people telling me I 'need' meat. I chose to be vegetarian for animal rights reasons but as soon as I cut out meat I have felt much healthier and more energetic. This definitely supports what I've seen with my own body!
Me too! I did it for the animals but feeling healthier is a great bonus.
"If we could live happy and healthy lives without harming others... why wouldn't we?" - Edgars Mission
Newbie
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 23
This is great! I was just recently talking to someone, and explained that the trend in science and nutrition is in support of veggie diets, not the other way around. This just proves that point.
Veggie Regular
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 203
I am enjoying reading about the posters feeling more healthy after becoming veg*n. I stopped eating any kind of meat in 1990 and am now retired. I, too, went vegetarian for the animals but now that I am old, the health benefits are very apparent. I don't have any of the sicknesses that my friends and family are now putting up with, such as digestion problems, acid reflux, GERD, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and obesity. My eyes show no sign of cataracts or glaucoma. I did have to go through a bout of insecticide related cancer in 2004 but have recovered. My point is that going veg*n is a good thing to do at any age, but the health benefits don't stop.
After 23 years of not eating meat, I am living proof that you don't need it.
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