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#31 Old 06-05-2010, 10:25 AM
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In terms of nutrients, nothing. With an omni diet, you're more likely to consume high amounts of cholesterol, saturated fat, and excessive calories. Also, not get enough other nutrients because your meals focus on the "protein."
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I've worked in the medical field for 15 years and have not heard of any medical condition being caused by a vegetarian diet. The two main causes of pancreatitis are alcohol abuse and gallstones--neither are associated with a vegetarian diet. In my opinion, these people are just looking for an excuse to eat meat. Why not just be honest and say that they eat meat because they like it and don't want to change?

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Yeah, this sounds fishy. Meat is only an easy source of protein, as someone else stated. So, I don't understand why her body wouldn't be able to adjust to her diet if she was getting the proper nutrition.
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#34 Old 06-05-2010, 02:00 PM
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In terms of nutrients, nothing. With an omni diet, you're more likely to consume high amounts of cholesterol, saturated fat, and excessive calories. Also, not get enough other nutrients because your meals focus on the "protein."



Exactly.

(It was rhetorical, btw)
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Some people can't be vegan - but it's an extremely, extremely rare genetic disorder where their bodies don't produce enough cholesterol. And even then, there is synthetic cholesterol, though egg yolks are supposed to work better.

I can't think of one reason a person couldn't be vegetarian. Maybe my imagination is limited.



im not directing this at you, so dont panic!

if somebody cant be vegan, then they should die if that is the case. animals shouldnt have to die so humans can live.
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Hate Stupid People



we need an icon where we headbutt these stupid people!!!
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I am not sure about this....I am sure for some people from a health aspect its possible.....I CANT be Vegan....I have tried three times in the almost 21 years I have been Veg and each time I got sicker and sicker........I am not going to judge anyone cause this could be real.....



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we need an icon where we headbutt these stupid people!!!



Nah, wouldn't want to hurt our heads when we've got these:

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Nah, wouldn't want to hurt our heads when we've got these:



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I think people getting sick eating as a vegetarian is directly related to the majority of people in North America eating a diet of processed junk and thinking it's healthy. If you suddenly go from eating meat and processed junk, and then remove the meat and go to eating only processed junk.......then yes, a person wouldn't get enough nutrients to keep them healthy.



Not everyone eating a vegetarian/vegan diet eats a healthy diet. Many people both Omni and vegetarian/vegan eat very unhealthy.
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sick?





totally.....very very very very sick.....so I am of the belief that Veganism ISNT for everyone....its personal for everyone and I am gonna keep mine that way too....but I believe that its different for everyone and I dont judge if people say they cant be Vegetarian or whatever....maybe they cant....cause I know I CANT be Vegan and WONT ever endanger my health again by trying no matter what people have said to me and continue to do.....I am a very proud Vegetarian of almost 21 years and thats very cool for me....have a hippie day



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Some young people are using veg*sm in combination with anorexia.

My usual answer: I have never heard a convincing reason to eat meat.
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Some young people are using veg*sm in combination with anorexia.



I thought it was more like, they claim to be vegan so they have an excuse to refuse most foods they may be offered?
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I thought it was more like, they claim to be vegan so they have an excuse to refuse most foods they may be offered?



Actually yes, I've heard of numerous cases like that too.
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Oddly, the treatment for pancreatitis includes eliminating red meat from the diet.



Rule number 1: when you remove meat from your diet, replace it with some other protein.



I did experience hair loss the first time I tried going vegetarian. My hair became brittle and big clumps of it came out when I combed it. I have since discovered this is a symptom of B12 deficiency.



Because of the effort it takes for me to explain to people that I can't eat meat - I get physically ill when I do - I am willing to entertain the notion that there are those who would become ill on a vegetarian diet. From what I've seen and experienced, though, I think it would be rare and that most people who do are simply not eating a balanced diet.
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#46 Old 06-08-2010, 05:52 AM
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To make the transition to be vegetarian, you need to make an action plan on how to substitute with other foods in particular foods with high protein. Society stating that to be vegetarian is unhealthy have no basis of research, knowledge and practicality behind them. There are a variety of meals and food items available today that contain excellent nutrients and protein. This is in addition to your vitamins.



One great example that I would like to suggest, is to replace that daily chocolate bar/biscuit with a delicious protein bar that on average contains 22g of protein and less teaspoons of sugar. Not only is this a healthier option for you, they taste great and keep you feeling more sustained, far longer than a chocolate bar.
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One great example that I would like to suggest, is to replace that daily chocolate bar/biscuit with a delicious protein bar that on average contains 22g of protein and less teaspoons of sugar. Not only is this a healthier option for you, they taste great and keep you feeling more sustained, far longer than a chocolate bar.



I'd rather not, that would be buying into the myth that people need massive amounts of protein. A reasonably well balanced vegan diet will supply enough.
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#48 Old 06-08-2010, 07:03 AM
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Yeah, people tend to get too much protein which stores as fat. I just eat balanced meals and I'm very healthy
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if somebody cant be vegan, then they should die if that is the case. animals shouldnt have to die so humans can live.

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What do you get in meat that you can't get from a vegetarian diet?

And there's yet another million dollar question ...



When I used to 'troll' (your always a troll if you speak unpopular truths?) non veggie boards I came across this pile of old cobblers many times.



M'favourite counter was to challenge people to name the 'magic' ingredient that was contained in meat but not in what meat eats.



All comers failed, obviously, as there is no magic ingredient.





One proviso mind ...



I am not convinced that there are not people who have damaged their bodies so badly by eating crap for so long that they can no longer digest 'proper' food efficiently.



Possibly there are some people who have buggered up their own bodies so badly that they can only now exist by robbing the bodies of others?
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What do you get in meat that you can't get from a vegetarian diet?

And there's yet another million dollar question ...



When I used to 'troll' (your always a troll if you speak unpopular truths?) non veggie boards I came across this pile of old cobblers many times.



M'favourite counter was to challenge people to name the 'magic' ingredient that was contained in meat but not in what meat eats.

Putrescine and cadaverine.

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Putrescine and cadaverine.



Those are both found in semen so with a properly planned vegan diet......

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I don't believe this. That's not possible.



But I do believe some people are at a more ready place to accept veg*nism. My husband and I went vegetarian around the same time, and I have been thriving. I love it! But today he went back to being an omni, and I'm totally okay with that. He was miserable as a vegetarian. He loves the taste of meat, and is not ready to give that up; maybe in the future he will again. So I am much more suited to vegetarianism at this point in my life.
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I think things that could cause you to not be able to be veg are extreme dietary restrictions or extreme allergies. I think 99% of people who say they can't/got sick had psycological issues that made them feel sick(thinking veg is unhealthy) or ate horrible, unplanned diets. Over the past year I haven't even been eating as well as I should be(and used to) and all that changed about my health?...My iron was 17 instead of the reccomended 18...so I became borderline anaemic. THIS was all that happened after A YEAR of not even bothering with a well planned veg diet and too much junk food. So yeah....
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Putrescine and cadaverine.

Them's not the 'magic' ingredient we cant live without though, is they?



Methinks them's just two out of a whole host of unwanted meat borne 'nasties'?
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Oh I was being facetious. Never take my one-liners seriously.

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Oh I was being facetious. Never take my one-liners seriously.

Thank heavens!



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He loves the taste of meat, and is not ready to give that up;



That's exactly the point. He DOESN'T WANT to give it up. Emphasis on the want. It's not that he can't give it up.

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Thank heavens!





I guess they don't call you Clueless Git for nothing then eh?

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#60 Old 07-04-2010, 03:48 AM
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When people say they 'can't' be vegetarian it is usually just an excuse. No, not everyone can, but the majority of people can.
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