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#1 Old 04-10-2010, 10:13 PM
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I was at a buffet which had sushi earlier today, and a friend of mine asked if I could have the fish egg sushi. I honestly don't know. I have no desire to in the first place, but the question stands. Are fish eggs considered vegetarian? What are your thoughts?
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#2 Old 04-10-2010, 10:21 PM
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They kill the fish and take the eggs from inside its body, so I'd say they're not vegetarian.
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I don't consider caviar to be vegetarian because they came out a fish. Which is strange, because I eat eggs, and eggs are generally considered vegetarian, and they came out of chickens. It's a little confusing, I know. My recommendation: If you're not sure, just avoid it.



My sister once bought vegan caviar made out of seaweed. Since I never liked (real) caviar in the first place, I didn't much care for this stuff, either. I don't remember the name on the jar, but I think she found it at Whole Foods, for anyone who is interested.

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They kill the fish and take the eggs from inside its body, so I'd say they're not vegetarian.



Oh my! I wasn't aware of the methods used to get fish eggs. I agree with you, they are not vegetarian.
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Chicken eggs are vegetarian as we don't kill the hen (I have mine from a local farmer whose hens are running in the grass). It's because I know the hens are living this way I buy and eat these eggs. But for fish eggs the fish is killed. So no I wouldn't consider those as vegetarian.
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Well I've tried them and they taste gross, so either way, I'm not going to eat them.
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I was wondering this a while ago... I didn't know how they got the fish eggs though. That's definitely not vegetarian.


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Yuck!!!! The only Eggs I eat are out of a Hen that was raised properly but, fish eggs that is totally wrong.
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There are ways to harvest fish eggs without killing the fish, but usage of such measures is extremely rare, FWIR.
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I enjoyed sushi when I was still eating meat, and found myself missing it lately. It turns out that avocado, tofu and cucumber make a really palatable maki roll. The seaweed wrapper even imparts a hint of fishy taste, and with all the condiments, I don't miss the raw fish at all. The building where I work has a pay-by-the-pound cafeteria, and when I get there at just the right time, the woman who makes sushi will put together a couple of custom rolls for me. And by watching her and watching a couple of youtube videos, it turned out to be fairly simple to make at home. Last Sunday I made up five rolls and brought them as hors d'oeuvres for my family at Easter. They got snapped up so quickly, and everyone (mostly omnis) was raving, that I wished I'd brought more.
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The sushi counter at our local (high-end healthy foods supermarket) very often now offers a "veggie friendly" box, essentially subbing in marinated tofu for the fish.
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Wow, I had no idea what caviar even was, I just knew it wasn't vegetarian. So gross...
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#13 Old 04-11-2010, 08:20 AM
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Pseudo-vegetarians are self-indulgent.

Stop beating around the bush and get to a really higher plain.

GO VEGAN!
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Pseudo vegetarians? Perhaps you'd be more comfortable in the vegan forum.

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I never was a fan of sea food anyway. I have always considered it gross haha well I wonder people do not eat really undeveloped human beings, it is meat anyway.
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For me it would be an easy "no", don't eat eggs. Don't eat seafood.

Have you decided how you feel about both?
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caviar is a such a bunch of horrible, posey bull**** imo. ive got memories of my parents serving it at dinner parties when i was a teenager. blegh.
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Aw, so much caviar hate. Perhaps it's because my family is Russian but I grew up on red caviar and loved it. Alas, it is not vegetarian and DEFINITELY not vegan. Maybe I'll try that mock-caviar...
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They kill the fish and take the eggs from inside its body, so I'd say they're not vegetarian.



Dairy cows cows and egg-laying hens are slaughtered, are they not? Their products are considered vegetarian.
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Errhh, might those who say that fish eggs are not vegetarian care for an explanation?



What's the major difference or is it just a case of denial again?



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Dairy cows cows and egg-laying hens are slaughtered, are they not? Their products are considered vegetarian.



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Dairy cows cows and egg-laying hens are slaughtered, are they not? Their products are considered vegetarian.

The critical aspect is whether the harvesting of foodstuff is proximate cause of death/pain/etc. In the case of milk and eggs, it is not. Indeed, you cannot milk a dead cow, or get eggs from a dead hen. On my wife's family farm, there was always great concern for the on-going well-being of the dairy cows and egg-laying hens. There was never any thought about them as slaughter animals.
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The critical aspect is whether the harvesting of foodstuff is proximate cause of death/pain/etc. In the case of milk and eggs, it is not. Indeed, you cannot milk a dead cow, or get eggs from a dead hen. On my wife's family farm, there was always great concern for the on-going well-being of the dairy cows and egg-laying hens. There was never any thought about them as slaughter animals.



Understood, but my guess is that the majority of lacto-ovo vegetarians are not getting their egg and dairy products from sources that treat the animals as well as your wife's family.
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Understood, but my guess is that the majority of lacto-ovo vegetarians are not getting their egg and dairy products from sources that treat the animals as well as your wife's family.

Perhaps, but the point is that they're not killing the animals in order to get the milk or eggs. This is a vegetarian discussion forum, not a vegan forum, and the vast majority of vegetarians who are not vegans consider the eating of dairy and eggs acceptable.
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I just recently went to a Chinese buffet and my boyfriend picked out some veggie sushi for me, but it was covered in little red fish eggs. I told him that I couldn't eat that, and he said that they use 'fake caviar', has anyone ever heard of such a thing?
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Yes, I've heard of fake caviar. I would recommend asking the restaurant just in case, but China is known for its fake animal products. Some of them are frighteningly realistic.
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It all depends on which ocean or lake the caviar comes from. In deeep lakes the issue becomes more a question of time and your trade-off between what you know and your moral judgment.



For example, say "sevrugalem" and you will get many different opinions from different advocates.



My advice, for what it is worth, is to go "more pointed" than you would on other issues, but not too much.



Good luck!
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They kill the fish and take the eggs from inside its body, so I'd say they're not vegetarian.



exactly!!
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