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#1 Old 07-24-2008, 09:22 PM
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I am curious about the banned thing. I know that there are certain things that cannot be said or done on boards, but what do most people do to get banned? I have seen users with the label and have checked back at their messages because of curiousity to what they have done, but I can't always find something. So my main question... what are the main reasons that get people banned?



FYI haha I am not trying to get myself banned or anything. Really just curiousity.
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#2 Old 07-24-2008, 09:26 PM
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I'm not a mod or anything, but sometimes when people post something really inflammatory (usually a personal attack), the mods delete that comment when they ban the person.



Also, some people request to be banned permanently or temporarily so they have less distractions from real-life duties.
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#3 Old 07-24-2008, 09:31 PM
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Ahhh I never thought of anyone being asked to be banned. I guess you gotta do what you gotta do.
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Also, if someone has broken the board rules, the posts will be deleted, so you won't see anything in their post history.

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And you can also be punished on spurious grounds by biased mods.
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And you can also be punished on spurious grounds by biased mods.



Or they may just make you do 'Hail Mary's'

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And you can also be punished on spurious grounds by biased mods.



Indeed. I got a warning for jokingly posting "please don't breed" after someone asked the question, "what do have to do if I want to flip a car?" I got another warning for calling someone a "twit."



On the other hand, a mod once called me an "ass" because she disagreed with my position on something. That post wasn't deleted, I doubt she got a warning, and she's still a mod.
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I got another warning for calling someone a "twit."





But the use of 'slut' is fine.



(twit - noun. Informal, chiefly British a silly or foolish person. - OED)
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Just a quick note for those who don't know, or who sometimes forget:



We mods are volunteers who basically just try to enforce the board rules created by Michael as best we can.



There will be inconsistency, because we are all very different people. We do all have jobs and busy lives. We try to bounce things off of each other, but we are not always in agreement with actions to take- we are imperfect beings, just trying to make VB a great place to hang out.

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Just a quick note for those who don't know, or who sometimes forget:



We mods are volunteers who basically just try to enforce the board rules created by Michael as best we can.



There will be inconsistency, because we are all very different people. We do all have jobs and busy lives. We try to bounce things off of each other, but we are not always in agreement with actions to take- we are imperfect beings, just trying to make VB a great place to hang out.



FWIW, I think most of us understand that.
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#11 Old 07-24-2008, 11:02 PM
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But the use of 'slut' is fine.



Yeah, there is definitely a double standard - that's been all too obvious for a long while; ultimately it's Michael's board to run as he wants.



I take a break when things get too biased/ridiculous and come back when the air has cleared. Consider it a weird compliment, many of the people they "hand-slap" for no "real" reason are the truly interesting/articulate/intelligent people on the board.
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many of the people they "hand-slap" for no "real" reason are the truly interesting/articulate/intelligent people on the board.



Like me.



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Yeah, there is definitely a double standard - that's been all too obvious for a long while; ultimately it's Michael's board to run as he wants.



I take a break when things get too biased/ridiculous and come back when the air has cleared. Consider it a weird compliment, many of the people they "hand-slap" for no "real" reason are the truly interesting/articulate/intelligent people on the board.



#1 There is no "double standard". The mods however are not androids, and of course cannot be 100% objective. Also, there are rarely two situations that are the same.



#2 This statement about the "truly interesting...." people suggests that you wouldn't mind if the "hand slapping" (won't even go there) were done to non interesting people. Talk about a double standard.



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[QUOTE=IamJen;2011127#2 This statement about the "truly interesting...." people suggests that you wouldn't mind if the "hand slapping" (won't even go there) were done to non interesting people. Talk about a double standard.

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I took this to mean that she's of the opinion that the posts of some of the more outspoken members who speak interestingly on heated issues are reviewed with more scrutiny than others, at least when it comes to some mods.



A good example of how the blind eye can be cast is this: https://www.veggieboards.com/boards/s...ad.php?t=79500, where one member framed another in a pejorative fashion - in the thread title! If certain other members had done the same it would have been a scandal.



In the end it was shut down "because VB/moderators don't wish to encourage people to ambush another board" - never addressing the "personal attack" on Vegan Joe at all.
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<<takes it personally when "the mods are so biased" threads emerge.



Well, that might give you an inkling of what it feels like to be accused, found guilty and punished for something you haven't done.



Maybe, if some of the mods weren't so partial, there wouldn't be any threads complaining about them.
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You never know. I've been given official warnings because I praised Firefox and it's supported add-ons. On the other hand I'm way more abrasive than some people that get banned so go figure.



I wish there was a way to know why someone was banned, whether they jumped themselves or were pushed and why, but I understand the reasons why the reasons for bannings are kept private. I'm just a big ole sticky beak.

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I'm way more abrasive than some people that get banned so go figure.



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That is true. But sometimes some fairly nice people seem to get banned so it puzzles me. And isn't calling someone a pussy a breach of the TOS? (Direct insult and all... y'know)

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And isn't calling someone a pussy a breach of the TOS? (Direct insult and all... y'know)



At least I didn't call you a slut!



pussycat noun (informal)

1 a cat.

2 a mild-mannered or easy-going person.
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While I despise the word slut I would still rather be a slut than a pussy.

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Please refrain from any further personal attacks. You know who you are.




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Please refrain from any further personal attacks. You know who you are.










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But the use of 'slut' is fine.



(twit - noun. Informal, chiefly British a silly or foolish person. - OED)



Is that referencing members calling each other sluts or are you talking about the Slut thread?
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I've been on lots of boards, and at every single one, there's a certain contingent that will complain about the mods/admin no matter how fair and even-handed they are. It seems some people absolutely dislike the entire concept of moderation. There are boards for them. And some of you already go there.

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Tom Cruise joined VB a month or so after I had joined, but he was banned after four days for violating the "Don't be a manic dangerous Hollywood freak who has a lot of money but should definitely use it to get some help" rule of an older version of the TOS.

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^^ yerh I remember you , Im back , so watch it .
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^^ yerh I remember you , Im back , so watch it .

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Maybe, if some of the mods weren't so partial, there wouldn't be any threads complaining about them.



Such innocence; idealists are so cute, sometimes.
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