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#1 Old 08-26-2014, 07:07 PM
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Why was logic banned?

It's all in the title.
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#2 Old 08-26-2014, 07:17 PM
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Sorry, that's private information. Out of respect for logic, we don't discuss it on the boards.

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Are the reasonings behind all bans private information or is this a special case?
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#4 Old 08-26-2014, 08:53 PM
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It's an across-the-board policy. It applies to everyone. It's not fair to discuss an ex-member who isn't here to join the conversation, and we try to protect the privacy of our members, even after they leave.
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So it wasn't a member request then. Those have always been public.

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Poppy, you and cornsail should have stayed mods. You'd know all about it then.

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It's an across-the-board policy. It applies to everyone. It's not fair to discuss an ex-member who isn't here to join the conversation, and we try to protect the privacy of our members, even after they leave.
I respect that you are following the policies set in place, even if I don't agree with the policy.

Anyway, I am bummed to learn of this. Often when I start to read a thread I wonder what (if anything) logic will have to say, especially when it comes to health topics. I will miss his/her contributions.
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I miss him too.
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I liked his posts as well.


I've eaten a lot more vegetables because of him....when he starts to go on about 'whole foods' it makes me want to eat them.


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#10 Old 08-27-2014, 03:05 PM
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Ban reasons should be public.

Makes no sense "protecting privacy" of an online alias. That is crazy.


How do we know he/she wasn't banned because some mod simply didn't like him? I wouldn't want to be in a community like that.
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Ban reasons should be public.

Makes no sense "protecting privacy" of an online alias. That is crazy.


How do we know he/she wasn't banned because some mod simply didn't like him? I wouldn't want to be in a community like that.
That couldn't happen, we can't ban people without just cause and one mod doesn't have the power to ban alone. A lot of time and discussion goes into the decision to ban someone, it's not something we take lightly.

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I'm sure there were good reasons. We should support the moderators they have a pretty tough time keeping the peace especially in heated conversations etc.
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Ban reasons should be public.

Makes no sense "protecting privacy" of an online alias. That is crazy.
The policy is an extension of our infractions policy. When a member breaks a posting rule (personal attack, discouraging another member from posting, promoting meat, etc.,) we try not to advertise it all over the boards, but handle it behind the scenes, through personal messages with the offending member. We prefer to privately educate rule-breakers, rather than to publicly "punish" them, which may be an humiliation for them. We feel, if we show them some courtesy, they may in turn begin to show it to others too. Whether this is the best policy I suppose is subject to debate. Six of one, half a dozen of the other. Some believe public chastisement is the way to go. We ask very little of our members, and we certainly don't tell them what to think, but we do ask for common courtesy, that they not try to sell products and refrain from promoting non-vegetarian habits, among other things.

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How do we know he/she wasn't banned because some mod simply didn't like him? I wouldn't want to be in a community like that.
This isn't that sort of community. VB mods are not permitted to ban members on their own. Bans- except in cases of obvious commercial spammers, porn-peddlers, etc.- cannot occur, until there has been extensive discussion among the mods, and then only by majority vote; furthermore, our policy is, bans can only occur in cases of chronic, repeat offenders- by those who have demonstrated over time a refusal to follow our simple rules, by breaking them over and over.

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#14 Old 08-27-2014, 07:59 PM
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How do we know he/she wasn't banned because some mod simply didn't like him? I wouldn't want to be in a community like that.
As a former mod I'm pretty certain that's not the case unless things have changed drastically. To be clear, I'm bummed by the ban based on the fact that I enjoyed a lot of logic's posts, but I'm not knocking the mod team for it since I don't know the reasons.

I agree with you in that I think there's some merit to public ban notices with a few words of explanation, especially with respect to regular posters who've been around for awhile. But I suppose it's a debatable subject with pros and cons on both sides.
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