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#31 Old 06-15-2012, 04:31 AM
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Does the new software not allow for the courtesy of telling a banned member what they were banned for?

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At the moment, it doesn't, and I hope that changes.  This change caught us (the moderators) by surprise as we were used to sending a message along with the ban.

I'm not really up with the whole banning process, but couldn't a regular email be sent to the person, then, to let them know?
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Agreed.

Other software issues and concerns that have not been answered yet:

Why can't our accounts be deleted when we request it? Why can't our pm's be completely deleted as well? I'm not understanding why when we delete a pm it goes straight to the trash folder where it will stay until we send/receive another 20 messages to fill it up again. Why can't the trash folder be emptied???

I'm not really bothered by a lot of the changes, with the exception of this...this really bothers me. sad.gif
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We've always had an issue with account deletions. To be honest, the mods have always hated them, since it makes it impossible to go back and look up information about an old member. This isn't a problem in most cases, but sometimes we suspect an old member has returned, sometimes a problem member. However, Michael would usually personally delete accounts when people requested it of him specifically; the mods have never been able to do this from a technical standpoint. So, I have told at least one person recently who wanted their account deleted that the best I could do is permanently ban them. I do not know if account deletions are possible in the new software, but if they are, it would be up to Huddler or Michael to take care of that for you. Perhaps contacting one of them via PM would be the most efficient method. (I'm not saying "you" to Fadeaway, but a general "you" to anyone who wants to do this).

 

At least the mods are aware of the PM issue, but not any solutions yet. Huddler has not been signed on very frequently, so the best I can say is to be patient. I know that's not what anyone wants to hear.

 

We're also aware that there are some issues with the forum being flagged as malware for some people. I'm not having this problem on any browser, so I don't know what's going on. But know that we know about this. 

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Thanks Dormouse and mods.

 

I am very confused by Michael's title. I thought Michael was no longer an admin and just a regular member who no longer had the ability to do take certain actions regarding the software, modding issues, and site in general?
 

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From a technical standpoint, he is still an administrator.

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Huddler has not been signed on very frequently

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I don't like that someone can be banned and not realize it. 

 

Have no doubt that some people in control of a forum love doing stuff like that. Ohhhhhh that feeling of control and leaving someone with such questions. Makes up for being nothing but a blip in the real world.

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We've always had an issue with account deletions... the mods have never been able to do this from a technical standpoint. I do not know if account deletions are possible in the new software, but if they are, it would be up to Huddler or Michael to take care of that for you.

At least the mods are aware of the PM issue, but not any solutions yet. Huddler has not been signed on very frequently, so the best I can say is to be patient. I know that's not what anyone wants to hear.


Thank you for explaining that. smiley.gif
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I don't like that someone can be banned and not realize it. Or that they will not be shown a reason.

 

Which is exactly what happened to Clueless Git.

 

Do you not like it enough to actualy show a reason?

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Which is exactly what happened to Clueless Git.

Do you not like it enough to actualy show a reason?


Do you really not know why he would have been banned?

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Do you really not know why he would have been banned?

 

If you think it's obvious why not say why you think he was? I can think of reasons people may have wanted to ban him for things he's said months ago, but if there was a recent controversy I missed it.

 

Even if the reasons seem obvious to the person doing the banning I think it's terrible modding policy to ban a long time member with no explanation.

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If you think it's obvious why not say why you think he was? I can think of reasons people may have wanted to ban him for things he's said months ago, but if there was a recent controversy I missed it.

 

Even if the reasons seem obvious to the person doing the banning I think it's terrible modding policy to ban a long time member with no explanation.

I don't understand why he wasn't banned a lot sooner as a lot of his comments made the women on here feel uncomfortable and it is supposed to be a family-friendly forum but I agree with you that it's a strange policy not to send the person a message with the reason for the ban.

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Even if the reasons seem obvious to the person doing the banning I think it's terrible modding policy to ban a long time member with no explanation.

It isn't policy. This new system has been full of surprises, some of them not so good.

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It isn't policy. This new system has been full of surprises, some of them not so good.


Oh yeah, I missed your earlier post in the thread. Sorry.

 

I wonder if something could be improvised for people who were accidentally banned without explanation like unbanning them, sending them a PM and then giving them a limited period of time to read the PM before banning them again. Or in CG's case I'm sure you could just get his email address from HH.

 

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I don't understand why he wasn't banned a lot sooner as a lot of his comments made the women on here feel uncomfortable and it is supposed to be a family-friendly forum but I agree with you that it's a strange policy not to send the person a message with the reason for the ban.

 

 

But did he make any of those comments recently before his ban? I also think it'd be strange to ban someone for something they did months beforehand.

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It isn't policy. This new system has been full of surprises, some of them not so good.

Oh right. smiley.gif

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But did he make any of those comments recently before his ban?

I don't know.

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I wonder if something could be improvised for people who were accidentally banned without explanation like unbanning them, sending them a PM and then giving them a limited period of time to read the PM before banning them again. Or in CG's case I'm sure you could just get his email address from HH.

Thanks for the feedback - it's good. smiley.gif

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But did he make any of those comments recently before his ban? I also think it'd be strange to ban someone for something they did months beforehand.

Well I reported a posting of his maybe 4 or 5 weeks ago. If others reported his posting(s) around that time, I wouldn't be totally surprised.

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Well I reported a posting of his maybe 4 or 5 weeks ago. If others reported his posting(s) around that time, I wouldn't be totally surprised.

 

As no reason for the ban has been provided and if one is to assume it is in connection with the exchange on the 'Father of 30 wants help' topic..

 

then what totally surprises me is.. that some one whose posts are regularly met with a tirade of personal abuse and whose response to that abuse is good humour and not  retaliation should somehow be seen as a perpetrator as opposed to a victim?  

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As no reason for the ban has been provided and if one is to assume it is in connection with the exchange on the 'Father of 30 wants help' topic..

 

then what totally surprises me is.. that some one whose posts are regularly met with a tirade of personal abuse and whose response to that abuse is good humour and not  retaliation should somehow be seen as a perpetrator as opposed to a victim?  


You obviously see things way different to me but since Clueless appears to be banned and so can't respond to anything I would post, I don't feel able, to be fair to him, to make any further comment.

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Even if the reasons seem obvious to the person doing the banning I think it's terrible modding policy to ban a long time member with no explanation.

 

Then we have terrible modding policy here as absolutely no reason has ever been given.

 

Perhaps there is no reason that actualy can be given?

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Then we have terrible modding policy here as absolutely no reason has ever been given.

 

Perhaps there is no reason that actualy can be given?

 

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I thought they were going to utilize my suggestions after Poppy said that my feedback was good.

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I thought they were going to utilize my suggestions after Poppy said that my feedback was good.

 

It does seem strange that with two moderators having read and responded to this topic that still absolutely no reason has been given.

 

A very polite PM to Michael asking if he knew why has been totally ignored also.

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It does seem strange that with two moderators having read and responded to this topic that still absolutely no reason has been given.

 

A very polite PM to Michael asking if he knew why has been totally ignored also.

 

Well, they can't announce it publicly, nor can they contact CG directly because of the ban (unless they use the email he used to sign up). It is a problem with the software, which does not allow ban reasons to be shown to the member anymore, not with the moderators. And this software issue (as well as many others brought up by the membership) has not been addressed by the new admins. 

 

Michael has nothing to do with anything anymore, so I don't know why you would ask him. 

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Well, they can't announce it publicly, nor can they contact CG directly because of the ban (unless they use the email he used to sign up). It is a problem with the software, which does not allow ban reasons to be shown to the member anymore, not with the moderators. And this software issue (as well as many others brought up by the membership) has not been addressed by the new admins.

 

What about my suggestions in post #44? Poppy's response (post #46) seemed to indicate that they (or at least one of them) would be used.

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P.S. I have given up my moderator duties, which is why I said "they" and can't really give much more in the way of an answer or a solution. Sorry. 

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It does seem strange that with two moderators having read and responded to this topic that still absolutely no reason has been given.

A very polite PM to Michael asking if he knew why has been totally ignored also.

We cannot respond to you about an issue with another member. All I can say is that I'm sorry that the new software caught us off-guard, and we have since realized the shortfalls of the new system.

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any news about getting this bug sorted out?

I think it casts a smog over the board. Half the posters could be banned, but there is no way to tell.

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I'm sending a list of to-dos or rather "VB member wants" to Huddler tomorrow, i.e. get the like button working, deal with whatever is going on with tapatalk and so fourth. I will add this issue to the list.


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Hi everyone. 

 

I know some of you had questions about wanting to know who is banned, who is not, etc. I brought this up with Huddler's tech folks and did get a response. 

 

They noted that in order to know who is banned, there would need to be some sort of "banned badge made." Implementing it though, across the board would not be a quick change. According to the tech person I chatted with, a banned badge is, "Not something that's going to happen soon."  

 

Sorry there's not better news for some of you. 

 

On the plus side, I also have asked tech if we could get the "Like" buttons working and if we can set it up so that members may delete their own posts, among other things. I already heard back about these issues and it seems like Huddler thinks these problems are fixable sooner rather than later. I'm still working on getting all the info, but as soon as I know more about these specific issues (which should be soon) I'll post about each issue in the community assistance area. 


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