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Today's lesson: Watch your mouth around children

post #1 of 30
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My son was being unruly this morning, so my husband told Kai..."if you don't stop touching that, I'm going to smack your hand".....and my 2 year old's response...under his breath "Oh Sh*t"...BWAHAHAHAHAAAA I had to turn my head and hide my face. Sh*t is about the only swear word I say. I also say "hell no" alot......and my son runs around the house saying that too. I have since replaced "hell no" with "Elmo". That is all.



ETA: Just so you all know...we don't spank Kai. I feel I have to explain myself Sometimes nothing else works with him, but a smack on the hand. He doesn't like it, so ususally if we threaten him with it, he'll stop whatever it is he's doing.
post #2 of 30
we are horrible, have pathetically tried, but still swear like truckers kind of parents. my kids will be in kindergarten next year and i suspect that is when it will come to bite us in the a**!!! we are good parents tho!!!
post #3 of 30
You should hear some of the things we hear at work...one of our kiddos, when he was about age 1 3/4, discovered the joy of "dammit" (said as one word, lol). The first time he said it, the other teacher and I were sure we must have heard incorrectly. Later, as he used it repeatedly in appropriate context (stubbed my toe "dammit", spilt the milk "dammit", I want that truck "dammit"), we had to have a quick chat with mom.
The ones I pity are the ones who never stick out their neck for something they believe, never know the taste of moral struggle, and never have the thrill of victory. - Jonathan Kozol
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post #4 of 30
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Originally Posted by IamJen View Post

You should hear some of the things we hear at work...one of our kiddos, when he was about age 1 3/4, discovered the joy of "dammit" (said as one word, lol). The first time he said it, the other teacher and I were sure we must have heard incorrectly. Later, as he used it repeatedly in appropriate context (stubbed my toe "dammit", spilt the milk "dammit", I want that truck "dammit"), we had to have a quick chat with mom.

AAAARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!! *runs and hides* i dont want to be taken aside for a chat with a TEACHER!!! i can swear AND lie!! my husband is the "bad swearing parent"---not me, i SWEAR!!!!!!!

not meaning to make light of teachers jobs--i am sure it is a chore for you when you are trying to teach all the good things. i will clean up my act!!
post #5 of 30
Heh. Frenchie. We actually debated about it for a long time. Fortunately, it was mom with whom we had a very good relationship. We simply explained about the phrase we had been hearing, knowing that the mom would likely be a bit embarrassed, but also maybe pay more attention at home. It's one of the hazards of childcare. In a home, you can wait for the phase to pass. Here, where we have 8 little mimics, it would've not have made for happy times for the other 7 sets of parents.
The ones I pity are the ones who never stick out their neck for something they believe, never know the taste of moral struggle, and never have the thrill of victory. - Jonathan Kozol
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The ones I pity are the ones who never stick out their neck for something they believe, never know the taste of moral struggle, and never have the thrill of victory. - Jonathan Kozol
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The other day I was in line for the interminable wait to pick up my son from kindergarten. I mean I live like less than a mile from school and it takes 45 minutes. (I walk on the days I don't have my 2yo nephew with me and it only takes 25 minutes on those days). Anyhow... some butthead decided just to cut right in front of all of us who had been patiently waiting in line. Just smooshed his big butt expensive SUV right in there. So I mutter under my breath. "What a f***er!" And eagle ears in the back seat (Justin) "Mommy! Who's a f***er? What's a f***er?" So I try to tell him not to say that, that it's a bad word. "But Mommy, I don't know what a f***er is??!!!???"



That's gonna bite me in the butt for sure.
post #7 of 30
Lol @ rincaro. Kids hear *everything*.
The ones I pity are the ones who never stick out their neck for something they believe, never know the taste of moral struggle, and never have the thrill of victory. - Jonathan Kozol
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The ones I pity are the ones who never stick out their neck for something they believe, never know the taste of moral struggle, and never have the thrill of victory. - Jonathan Kozol
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post #8 of 30
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....and it always sounds so cute when they say it in their little voices. It's so hard not to laugh!!
post #9 of 30
My parents never swore in front of us that I know of. I didn't even know what a "cuss word" was until third grade when somebody listed it as a sin in religion class.



The big thing we got yelled at for saying was "shut up." all the other kids were allowed to say it, but we weren't. I was discussing this with a friend of mine one day (in second grade) and she says, "Shut up isn't so bad. There's one word, though. It's the worst word in the world. And you should never ever say it." I, of course, wanted to know what the word was. (so that I could make sure I didn't say it... or something) so she told me... "f***" I was so excited. I knew a new word!" "Well, what does it mean?" I asked. "I don't know! Just don't ever say it!" she told me.



I didn't until I got much older. Until I knew what the word meant, it was useless to me. I didn't dare ask my parent, either, because it was "the worst word in the world" and I knew that good little girls NEVER said bad words.



Now I use it all the time in my LJ but in real life, on the occasion that I say something... foul... people laugh at me and say, "Ella said (insert dirty word)! that's so cute! Say it again!"
post #10 of 30
This thread made me think of Meet the Fockers. A$$. . . . hooollle. Funny movie, and funny thread!
post #11 of 30
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Angel of Dance, for some reason your response triggered a memory that kills me with laughter. My friend and I were having an intense discussion about our developing bodies.....well, as intense as a 10 year old could I guess...at any rate, the word masterbate came into our conversation. I told her what I thought it was, and she disagreed. I thought, what the hell, I'll ask my parents I will never forget that day as long as I live!!! They were hanging curtains in their room, and my friend and I waltzed in and without warning, I casually asked "What does masterbate mean?" My mom swung her head around, my stepdad dropped the curtains and the two of them just started to laugh real nervously. My stepdad went into this rambling explination about good feelings and sex....and then he lost me somewhere...I told him I got the idea, I needed no further explination....it was painful to watch him trying to explain what it was. OH! and one day I called my mom a dildo.....I almost had my face face smacked off of my skull. I was about 10 then as well.....wasn't really sure what a dildo was, just knew the boys on the playground used that word alot.
post #12 of 30
I'm still learning what half of those terms are. I actually learned... about a month ago I guess... what it meant to "give head"



eta: to put this in context... I'm eighteen years old and a freshman in college.
post #13 of 30
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Originally Posted by frenchie View Post

...at any rate, the word masterbate came into our conversation. I told her what I thought it was, and she disagreed. I thought, what the hell, I'll ask my parents I will never forget that day as long as I live!!! They were hanging curtains in their room, and my friend and I waltzed in and without warning, I casually asked "What does masterbate mean?"

(Emphasis added.)



Masturbate has a u in the middle and only one e--at the end.
post #14 of 30
My son is 16 months old and has already said **** more than once! I am really trying to watch my mouth too! It just happens so fast, all of a sudden they are repeating everything you say and you have to totally change the way you speak. His vocabulary is expanding so quickly and I say a lot of things that I do not want included in it!
post #15 of 30
my parents tell this story from when i was five. They picked me up from kindergarden one afternoon and asked me how school was. I said that it was fine, except the kids are dumb. my parents asked what i mean. and i said, 'well, they the asphault is a swear-word. that's not a swear word; these are swear words: . . ."



and then i rattled off a list of about 20 terms that i'd gotten from my mom, dad, great grandmother, and a few other places around. My dad said it was the funniest thing in the world; they were just dying trying not to laugh.



funny thing is, i never used the swear words myself until i was 13. it became popular then and i was trying them out. i stopped about two months after a started. The reason why i didn't swear even though i knew all of the words was because my parents told me that it was uncreative to use those words when there are other adjectives that i could use. So, we set out to find other words that could be used in an explative way, that denote the same ideas--or what i thought the words meant based on context.



so, i didn't swear for a long time, and then i would be veyr snobby about kids who did:



1. you don't even know what that means!

2. if you use those words instead of others, you're being uncreative!

3. you're too dumb to learn other words anyway, because you don't even know what the swear words mean to begin with, or how to use them.



when i was five, i had a massive vocabulary. i also fell in love with the origins of words. when my class studied japan in second grade, i was so into learning the new words--it's crazy.



all of this because my parents told me it was uncreative to swear. and, of course, fully admitted to being uncreative at times.
post #16 of 30
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Originally Posted by Joe View Post

(Emphasis added.)



Masturbate has a u in the middle and only one e--at the end.



Thank you Joe...for being the spelling policeman that you are. I feel much better now, knowing I can go through life spelling masturbate correctly
post #17 of 30
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Thank you Joe...for being the spelling policeman that you are. I feel much better now, knowing I can go through life spelling masturbate correctly



I didn't wanna say anything. But if you can't spell it right....
post #18 of 30
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Originally Posted by rincaro View Post

I didn't wanna say anything. But if you can't spell it right....

...you can still do it right.
post #19 of 30
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I didn't wanna say anything. But if you can't spell it right....



Damn you two!!! It was late....I didn't re-read to do my spell check, I just pressed send.
post #20 of 30
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...you can still do it right.



Bwahahahaaaaa!! Touche!
post #21 of 30
a light hearted thread!! yeah i must say i laughed my heinie off reading it. sadly my partner and i swear like crazy and are trying not to in front of our 15 month old. he doesnt' talk much but i know he listens...i will hopefully homeschool so no teacher worries (i am a teacher myself)but...i know we are gonna be in for it if we don't get more "creative". ciao
post #22 of 30
Swearing was never a big deal to my parents. They just said, "Don't let it be a substitute for creativity or knowledge."



Of course we never swear in front of Nana.
post #23 of 30
One of the ladies in my mom's group is in the process of potty training her 2 year old. She was horrified when her little girl came up to her and said, "Mommy, I have to take a dump!"
post #24 of 30
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Originally Posted by frenchie View Post

Thank you Joe...for being the spelling policeman that you are. I feel much better now, knowing I can go through life spelling masturbate correctly



Thank you for the kiss. I won't write you a ticket.



Spelling it right and doing it right may be related.



If you spell it right, u will be at the center of it.



If you do it right, you will be at the center of it.



If you spell it right, e will be at the end.



If you do it right, e --



or even eeee! --



or even eeee-yeah! ---



will be at the end.
post #25 of 30
I have a friend who is a high school English teacher. Whenever his students use "swear words" in class, he makes them go to the thesaurus and look up a list of synonyms that can be spoken in polite society, write out a copy of the list and turn it in, and use these "acceptable" words instead in the future.



It is possible to express thoughts, emotions and expletives in English without using "cuss" words.
post #26 of 30
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Originally Posted by Joe View Post

Thank you for the kiss. I won't write you a ticket.



Spelling it right and doing it right may be related.



If you spell it right, u will be at the center of it.



If you do it right, you will be at the center of it.



If you spell it right, e will be at the end.



If you do it right, e --



or even eeee! --



or even eeee-yeah! ---



will be at the end.



Joe!



Wow, this thread has taken an interesting turn, lol.
The ones I pity are the ones who never stick out their neck for something they believe, never know the taste of moral struggle, and never have the thrill of victory. - Jonathan Kozol
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post #27 of 30
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I have a friend who is a high school English teacher. Whenever his students use "swear words" in class, he makes them go to the thesaurus and look up a list of synonyms that can be spoken in polite society, write out a copy of the list and turn it in, and use these "acceptable" words instead in the future.



It is possible to express thoughts, emotions and expletives in English without using "cuss" words.



I truely have been meaning to get a Thesaurus....I think I'm going to put that on this week's shopping list.
post #28 of 30
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I truely have been meaning to get a Thesaurus....I think I'm going to put that on this week's shopping list.



They vary widely in quality (and cost). Roget's was considered standard back when I was in school, but many people prefer a "dictionary" style to Roget's numbered conceptual categories. An international thesaurus will provide foreign words and phrases as synonyms as well.



Oddly, there aren't many on line.



The Merriam-Webster dictionary provides a thesaurus, but it is fairly limited:



http://www.m-w.com/



If you look up a word in the OneLook Dictionary



http://onelook.com/



at the bottom of the listings they usually provide a list of "Words similar to [whatever]:"



Wordsmyth calls itself a dictionary-thesaurus:



http://www.wordsmyth.net/



LookWayUp has a thesaurus feature:



http://lookwayup.com/free/



Finally, here's an article on "fake" cuss words (as substitutes for real cusswords):



http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?FakeCussWord
post #29 of 30
Frenchie, I bet it was awfully cute when that word came out of his little mouth.



I used to use the "s" words when accidents happened and even general purpose. My daughter just hated it. The two of them (15 and 19 now) never have sworn around us except mild phrases. Maybe as long as you don't carry on like a drunken sailer...
post #30 of 30
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Originally Posted by cymbeline View Post

Frenchie, I bet it was awfully cute when that word came out of his little mouth.



I used to use the "s" words when accidents happened and even general purpose. My daughter just hated it. The two of them (15 and 19 now) never have sworn around us except mild phrases. Maybe as long as you don't carry on like a drunken sailer...



Oh no...I don't have much of a potty mouth. I did growing up because my mother allowed it. I toned it way down once I hit my 20's, and eventually stopped all together, with the occasional "s" word......I've been known to drop the F bomb now and again, but usually in jest...or a horribly paiful stubbed toe

Joe...thanks for the Thesaurus info, very helpful. I think while I'm at it, I might buy a new dictionary too, my poor Webster's is falling apart.
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