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My sister's chickens. What should I say?

post #1 of 25
4/27/12 at 9:16pm
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So my sister has a couple of chickens. She just posted a video on facebook of my 5 year old nephew standing on a bench throwing one of the chickens in the air. The chicken flutters helplessly and hits the ground. It seems to be walking after though.

What should I say to her? She filmed this video letting my nephew do that

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post #2 of 25
4/27/12 at 10:06pm
Well, I think even an omni could make the argument that that's a cruel thing to do to an animal. I would say, "Hey sis, I couldn't help thinking that letting little Marcus toss chickens in the air isn't a great way to treat a pet." The chickens are probably fine, they are sturdy birds, but it is not a good lesson for a young child to treat animals like that. Will she listen? No, but at least you can be at peace that you did say something about it and didn't languish in silence.
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post #3 of 25
4/28/12 at 1:01am
Yeah I think plenty of omnis would say something about that. I would just say something like "I saw that video on youtube of X with the chickens, don't you think that's cruel? The bird could get hurt and it's probally frightening for it, especially as prey animals don't like to be handled" or something like that, not really in your face, but honest. If she doesn't listen, there isn't much you can do, but it might get through.

In the UK I might suggest seeing if the RSPCA or somebody can do something, but I'm not sure if they'd actually be able to, I don't know what the law says about chickens/etc. Also since it's your sister, that could really damage your relationship.
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post #4 of 25
4/28/12 at 1:11am
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The chickens are probably fine, they are sturdy birds

No, they aren't sturdy birds, they're rather fragile.

OP, I don't even understand the question. Someone is abusing an animal. You've got to just step up and say it, even if she gets defensive. There isn't a reasonable option. When children and animals are being abused, they need people to be courageous.

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post #5 of 25
4/28/12 at 3:02am
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No, they aren't sturdy birds, they're rather fragile.

OP, I don't even understand the question. Someone is abusing an animal. You've got to just step up and say it, even if she gets defensive. There isn't a reasonable option. When children and animals are being abused, they need people to be courageous.

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post #6 of 25
4/28/12 at 6:51am
I agree with the above comments. Step in before it is too late.

This is not only cruel to the chikcen but not teaching a child to respect an animals. They are not toys and next thing the child will be kicking the poor mite.
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post #7 of 25
4/28/12 at 11:22am
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post #8 of 25
4/28/12 at 1:43pm
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Originally Posted by Doktormartini View Post

So my sister has a couple of chickens. She just posted a video on facebook of my 5 year old nephew standing on a bench throwing one of the chickens in the air. The chicken flutters helplessly and hits the ground. It seems to be walking after though.

What should I say to her? She filmed this video letting my nephew do that

If you live near your nephew, I think he needs your influence. He can easily be taught empathy and respect for fellow creatures at that age, and I think you are the one to give the lesson.
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post #9 of 25
4/28/12 at 1:52pm
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Originally Posted by Doktormartini View Post

So my sister has a couple of chickens. She just posted a video on facebook of my 5 year old nephew standing on a bench throwing one of the chickens in the air. The chicken flutters helplessly and hits the ground. It seems to be walking after though.

What should I say to her? She filmed this video letting my nephew do that

Without giving any information about the identity of the persons involved, I think you should contact your local ASPCA and see what they say about whether this constitutes animal cruelty and/or child neglect for allowing/encouraging this behavior.
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post #10 of 25
4/28/12 at 2:10pm
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Without giving any information about the identity of the persons involved, I think you should contact your local ASPCA and see what they say about whether this constitutes animal cruelty and/or child neglect for allowing/encouraging this behavior.

Since you're allowed to kill chickens, I don't think they would care.
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post #11 of 25
4/29/12 at 12:03am
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Since you're allowed to kill chickens, I don't think they would care.

That is a good point LedBoots however prehaps they could still give her some good advice.
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post #12 of 25
4/29/12 at 12:33am
Why does it land like that to begin with?
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post #13 of 25
4/29/12 at 4:36am
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Since you're allowed to kill chickens, I don't think they would care.

I think you are mistaken. If not, then they could tell her that, and she could proceed with knowledge rather than guesswork.
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post #14 of 25
4/29/12 at 5:14am
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I think you are mistaken. If not, then they could tell her that, and she could proceed with knowledge rather than guesswork.

Hopefully that's true. Plus there might be some regulations about humane treatment of farm animals prior to slaughter in the OP 's area. Chickens often get the short end of the stick in these laws though.
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post #15 of 25
5/1/12 at 3:07pm

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post #16 of 25
5/2/12 at 9:34am
Comment that this is not a funny video, but rather animal cruelty.
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post #17 of 25
5/2/12 at 4:42pm
I too am disturbed that the kid is being allowed to do this. Not funny but cruel. I too would say something directly.
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post #18 of 25
5/2/12 at 9:18pm
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It's more of a pet they don't live on a farm. They had many chickens in the past and at one point a couple died from the winter

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post #19 of 25
5/2/12 at 9:40pm
A child being allowed to mistreat an animal, pet or not, should be taught to stop the cruelty and learn to respect them. You may have to be the one to step up. Please do it, you'll feel good even if Sis gets a tad angry. It's part of what we have to do to protect those who can't protect themselves. Also you could find information to share about how to care for the chickens so they don't die from negligence.

You must make a choice between honoring your beliefs and worry about how your sister takes it. You can do it kindly. Of course I don't understand the relationship but it's worth a shot. Good luck.
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post #20 of 25
5/3/12 at 5:11am
I'd probably just ask if the chicken is okay and show concern, not enjoyment. She'll get the message.
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post #21 of 25
5/7/12 at 1:02pm
I agree i would just say hey sis i saw the video is the chicken ok it looked hurt maybe the kids shouldnt throw them like that they have fragile legs. If she's never had a chicken before she may not know whats harmful and whats ok. you could even add if the kids keep throwing them like that they may start chasing the kids or something too. That way if shes not so worried about the chicken she at lest stops for the kids sake. If you show concerns for both the chicken and the children she may be less inclined to be angry as well if shes the defensive type.

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post #22 of 25
5/7/12 at 1:54pm
I don't care who it is, if I see an animal being abused, I'm going to say something.
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post #23 of 25
5/7/12 at 2:32pm
If she was videotaping him do this, presumably she thought it was ok and funny. It's doubtful that you'll change her mind, but you could certainly try talking to her about it. Try to explain why it is scary and harmful for the chicken, and that you wouldn't want him to learn to treat other pets with disregard for their safety. At the very least, she should understand that another animal might hurt him if he treats it like this.
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post #24 of 25
5/7/12 at 2:56pm
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Originally Posted by Irizary View Post

No, they aren't sturdy birds, they're rather fragile.

OP, I don't even understand the question. Someone is abusing an animal. You've got to just step up and say it, even if she gets defensive. There isn't a reasonable option. When children and animals are being abused, they need people to be courageous.

THIS. Silence equals consent.

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Vegans are basically saying, "Hey, animals shouldn't be needlessly harmed." It's amazing how many people that sentiment freaks out. - Vegan.com

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post #25 of 25
5/7/12 at 3:09pm
Oh, also, you can report the video on facebook, or youtube, or wherever it is.
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