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Shoe glue?!

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
I'm a fairly new vegan and I heard that even if shoes aren't leather, they can be made with glue containing animal ingredients. Does this mean I have to stop buying shoes from ordinary shops (that are synthetic) or is it not true? I'm confused!

Thanks
post #2 of 15
True, unless specified. I have two pairs of vegan Earth shoes which are certified vegan down to the glue!
They're lower in the heel and feel wonderful standing, and give me better posture when walking. They are wider in the toe area, and have a high arch. I found both through Ebay- one was worn the other a store return.

Honestly, sometimes you have to do the best you can. I didn't give everything up at once, but let things wear out, and kept a constant check on thrift stores for replacements. If all you can afford and fit well are the best synthetic shoes (like some New Balance) than that may be the best choice for now.

In some ways I feel it's most important that people realize how doable being vegan is, and often 100% vegan products are more than most can afford. If getting people to consider what they're buying, you create a demand for non animal products, and companies will begin listening.
post #3 of 15
Have no idea what kind of glue is used in modern shoes. But I doubt traditional Animal hide glue is used, 'cause that would just suck at being water-proof. Looking at my "man made" Chinese Walmart shoes, it seems all the upper is held together by stitching.
Perhaps they use Animal ingredients in a modern water-proof glue, but maybe no more Animal ingredients than they use to make our computer cables. "Cow is everywhere".
post #4 of 15
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Originally Posted by Empty_Shell View Post

no more Animal ingredients than they use to make our computer cables. "Cow is everywhere".

Computer cables? Aah! What else do I need to know about that's secretly non-vegan? :S


And as for the shoes, I was just talking about any non-leather shoes, like from New Look or some similar place. So those won't be vegan then?

Thanks for all your help This is more complicated than it sounds!
post #5 of 15
I read an article a few years ago listing dozens of things cow parts were used in. I think it said wire/cable coatings had some cow in it. Also gelatin in dollar bills, etc. Maybe even car window glass, if I'm remembering correctly. I just mean it's mostly impossible to totally avoid it, especially the "hidden parts" of stuff you buy. But if I could afford it, I'd be willing to pay much more for shoes made for (and hopefully made by) vegans.
post #6 of 15
If you can get shoes that are made without animal glues that are certified vegan, go for it, but if you cannot, just focus on the bigger picture which is avoiding the animal skin itself.
post #7 of 15
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Originally Posted by stasher View Post

If you can get shoes that are made without animal glues that are certified vegan, go for it, but if you cannot, just focus on the bigger picture which is avoiding the animal skin itself.

Where do you get them from? I've seen a few websites but I didn't like the look of the shoes, and they probably wouldn't fit since I couldn't try them on. Also, is whatever they put in the glue just a by-product? I don't think I'd have so much of a problem with it if it was.
post #8 of 15
Hi.
It would be helpful for us to give you better answers if you let us know where youre from.
I have a great list of shoe companies in the UK that are vegan (even glues)

yes glue is a by product but its still an animal product however you look at it.
If the demand for it isnt there then animals will nto be killed for it.
post #9 of 15
Thread Starter 
Hi-yes, I'm from the UK. What I meant about by-products was, are they just using some part of the animal which is left over after slaughter and they wouldn't kill a whole animal just to make glue?
post #10 of 15
Its like saying that leather is a by product of the meat industry. Its not quite true.
Personally its still part of an animal so I avoid it.

UK shoes that have vegan glues and no leather etc (AND you can try on in shops)
Iron Fist (all vegan)
Rocket Dog(ONLY shoes with manmade uppers are vegan...they use Vegan glue but do make some leather and suede shoes/boots)
Michael Antonio
Marco Tozzi
and some Irregular Choice (check their website)

Online Ive found Inamagura to be a good choice, the are also all vegan.
post #11 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thanks!
post #12 of 15
I tried ordering shoes from vegetarian shoes, but my creditcard company froze the damn thing because they've had tons of complaints and issues with that website.
I finally found ugg style boots from target, fake suede, fake fur.
It was harder than I thought some of their boots were actually made from realy suede!
I was shocked.
I tried looking information on glue that target uses , but never really got a straight answer.
post #13 of 15

I hate to say it, but yes. I would not assume glue is vegan. It is whatever they can find, unless the company specifically manufactures vegan shoes because that is their ethic. I am in the same boat right now and came across your question in my search for vegan shoes. There is or was an Australian vegan shoe manufacturing company. It is next on my list if I don't find anything in the U.S.

Good luck. Publish your findings for the rest of us.

post #14 of 15

I hate to say it, but yes. I would not assume glue is vegan. It is whatever they can find that satisfies the market, whether long term or short term, depending on their business plan and objectives - unless the company specifically manufactures vegan shoes because that is their ethic. Therefor, support vegan businesses, and do not support companies that make shoes that at not 100% vegan when there are alternatives. I am in the same boat right now and came across your question in my search for vegan shoes. There is or was an Australian vegan shoe manufacturing company. It is next on my list if I don't find anything in the U.S.

 

By the way, gelatin is in certain high grade steel. Avoiding that, which suggests to me avoiding flying in airplanes, avoiding surgery, etc., may not be a practical option. But do your best to speak your truth to retailers. Eventually, people will begin to make vegan products more available. REI is one company that has educated shoe sales people. They will not sell you a shoe that is not 100% vegan if you ask for vegan shoes. It was they who educated me regarding shoe glue. So, we are having an impact, little by little.

 

Good luck, and please publish your findings for the rest of us.

post #15 of 15

I have hiking shoes from Wickedhemp.com.  The majority of their shoes are vegan and fair trade, but I am not sure if and what they use as far as glue.  They use wood pulp, hemp, and recycled rubber materials.  I ordered a pair of their shoes online several years ago and they fit true to size and are still going strong (I have a review on this site).  Otherwise I buy cheap man made shoes from places like Payless, though they might very well use animal glue.  I can't afford to keep ordering expensive shoes online so I do the best I can.  I have Kiowa Garmont Vegan hiking shoes I got online two years ago and also Merrell Siren Sport II that are labeled as vegan that I bought locally but again can't vouch for their glue.  I am big into hiking, canoe camping, and mountain biking so I like to have a good collection of hiking shoes.  I rarely wear dressy shoes but the Wickedhemps make a good casual work shoe.  And the Garmont's keep my feet very warm in Minnesota winters, along with my hemp and heavy cotton socks lol. 

 

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