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Eating meat from an animal that died of natural causes

post #1 of 133
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We all are in agreeance that slaughtering animals for meat is wrong and inhumane. However, if people ate meat from an animal that just died naturally in its natural habitat (like a pasture, for instance) and wasn't killed for its meat and wasn't abused during its life, would it still be inhumane and wrong to eat its meat? I mean, the animal didn't suffer nor was it killed prematurely.
post #2 of 133
Not inhumane, just really gross.

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post #3 of 133
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Originally Posted by Werewolf Girl View Post

Not inhumane, just really gross.

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Roadkill, ick.
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Roadkill, ick.

I agree, eating roadkill even before I became vegetarian would have been gross to me.
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post #5 of 133
If the animal died of natural causes, it probably has some kind of health issue and you most likely don't want to be touching it anyway. This is hard to confess, but lately I've been thinking about what it would be like to return to meat eating (not considering it, really) and just the thought of biting into a sandwich with meat makes me want to gag. The thought of eating an animal grosses me out.
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If the animal died of natural causes, it probably has some kind of health issue and you most likely don't want to be touching it anyway. This is hard to confess, but lately I've been thinking about what it would be like to return to meat eating (not considering it, really) and just the thought of biting into a sandwich with meat makes me want to gag. The thought of eating an animal grosses me out.



Same here. I think about that every now and then and have exactly the same reaction. The more you think about what it is and where it came from the more disgusting it starts to seem. Now I'm just amazed I used to eat that

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post #7 of 133
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Not inhumane, just really gross.

+1
post #8 of 133
^ +2. Ugh
post #9 of 133
I wouldn't do it, but I wouldn't have much of a problem with other people doing it.
Although, absent a desperately needy situation where there aren't other food sources available, its not exactly respectful of the animal. Think soylent green. It's really just downright disrespectful to eat someone.
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There are still a few things that I enjoy the smell of, and when I smell them, I start to think about eating them again and how much I used to like it, and then I think about what it actually is, and then I start to feel nauseous.

Exactly!!! Pork products were my favorite, but the thought of eating a pig makes me sick to my stomach.
post #11 of 133
Very yuck no
post #12 of 133
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Not inhumane, just really gross.

yeah those were exactly the words going through my head when i read it
post #13 of 133
I would have to be fairly near death through starvation to actually do this.
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post #14 of 133
I think of it as you wouldn't eat a dead human just laying around, why a dead animal? Unless your starving to death and have no other option, just as you wouldn't eat a human unless you were trapped somewhere (like in that movie, bleck)
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post #15 of 133
^^^ There is probably more of a hygeinic risk to eat a member of your own species, or even a member of a closely-related species who probably gets a lot of the same diseases you do.

But, yeah: gross. And somewhat disrespectful to the animal, although not nearly as bad as intentionally shortening his/her life so you can munch on his or her remains. I'd leave any dead bodies for other animals who are able to consume such things without being made sick, just as I now give such things to my cat or my neighbors' dogs (unless it might make them ill. For example: Onion isn't good for cats. A month ago I was given half of a tuna fish sandwich by a friend who was definitely going to throw it out, although it was freshly made. There was minced onion in it, so I picked the onion out before giving the tuna filling to my cat. And for some reason, ham makes my neighbors' dogs throw up.)

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post #16 of 133
I wouldn't think it inhumane at all, given that humans have pretty much always been scavengers and will eat damn near anything we come across that will provide nourishment and prevent starvation. However, it would have to be hard times indeed for me to do this personally. If it were an animal that I unintentionally hit with my car and it was still fresh... no problem whatsoever. But simply finding an animal lying dead in the woods... not so much. Although our paleo ancestors certainly would have chowed down on it.
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I agree, eating roadkill even before I became vegetarian would have been gross to me.

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In response to the question, that's gross. Plus who knows how long it's been there? Probably has diseases...

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post #18 of 133
OP, your question seems trickstery. Where are you getting at? Do you want to eat carcasses from nearby fields or something?
post #19 of 133
I don't see anything wrong with it, if its like, just then dead. After a little bit I'd be afraid of rot prolly.
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post #20 of 133
Mmmmmmm rotting carcasse? No thanks!
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post #21 of 133
OP, that how people got started eating meat, from scavenging carcasses killed by other animals. Since there weren't enough animals dying of natural causes to satisfy people, we have arrived at out present state of affairs.

To everyone, I am curious as to the disgust of rot. The meat you used to eat wasn't fresh off a dead animal. It had spent at least two weeks rotting under controlled conditions in order to soften enough to be edible to humans. People do not have the dentition to eat even cooked meat fresh off a mammalian corpse. It has to "hang" for a while. Hanging being a meat eater's euphemism for "rotting". Either that or it has to be "tenderized" in some other way before cooking. That stuff they sell, Accent, that is used to tenderize meat, is just full of the same enzymes that make meat rot on a corpse.
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post #22 of 133
Well... I don't think they had 'accent' in days gone by but the same principle applies i suppose...
post #23 of 133
Agreeing with SomebodyElse about it being how this all got started, and putting forward the idea that it's environmentally unethical too, considering that the dead animal lying on the ground will nuture the soil. We shouldn't interrupt that process.
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post #24 of 133
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As an aside, meat tenderizer is EXCELLENT for getting blood stains out of clothes.

I didn't know that. Is it better than hydrogen peroxide?
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I don't see anything wrong with it, if its like, just then dead. After a little bit I'd be afraid of rot prolly.

That's what i meant. If it just died--not been dead a while.
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Actually, Accent isn't a meat tenderizer, it's just MSG, which is a flavor enhancer. It doesn't tenderize. Actual meat tenderizer does have enzymes (usually papain, from papayas, and/or bromelain, from pineapples) that break down proteins.

As an aside, meat tenderizer is EXCELLENT for getting blood stains out of clothes.

Oh yes, you're right, it was Adolph's, not Accent. Been decades since I've seen any.
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post #27 of 133
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That's what i meant. If it just died--not been dead a while.

Creeping around after an animal waiting for it to die seems just as unethical and maybe even creepier than just killing it.
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post #28 of 133
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Creeping around after an animal waiting for it to die seems just as unethical and maybe even creepier than just killing it.

How is it just as unethical?
post #29 of 133
Maybe *ever so slightly* more gross than eating a "fresh kill". I guess when I ate meat (which went hand in hand with being in a whole lot of denial) I would have also found eating the "died from natural causes" flesh way too gross, but happy to go get a burger at mcdonalds. Much like I would eat cheese, 'cause it was in a clean wholesome looking package, Like "fresh meat". but no way I'd walk up to a cow, and squeeze out some milk and then make cheese from it, even though it would be most logical to find both totally fine, since there's really no significant difference, like the meat hanging on a hook for days or the Rabbit that just drowned in the swimming pool.

I agree with it being disrespectful to eat someone, no matter how they died.

Back to 'how gross it is' compared to standard meat eating: the veggie equal would be eating lettuce that's quite wilted, and I will eat veggies that have started to wilt and starting to get brown spots. Well, I would cut off any really bad parts.

I also find it disrespectful to make items out of Animals that died of natural causes. There's a company who makes "cruelty free" wallets made from leather from cows that died naturally.
post #30 of 133
Everyone here agrees on one thing, eating a dead animal is wrong, naturally or slaughtered. Would you eat your pet when he/she dies from age or disease? How about your parents? Friends? Eating anything from another creature is wrong. Animals are not vending machines, they are living, breathing, feeling, loving creatures, and should be treated with the utmost respect.
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