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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/1..._n_799699.html

Hail them as heroes to score political points, but then leave them to deal with the health consequences of that heroism. Nice. Very nice.
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Yeah, that was brought up in Sicko. It makes me mad.
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I think the Republican party should from now on be always referred to as "the blocking-9/11-first-responders-bill party". If the Democrats had any tactical sense or any balls, that's what they would do (i.e. refer to the far-right-wingers in that way).

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Yeah, the problem is that the Dems have never been good at delivering a cohesive, hard hitting message.

Republicans are better at character assassination too.
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I like to think of it as the Democrats have the logic, but the Republicans have the rhetoric. If we could get them to work together something good might actually happen. As it is now, however, the Dems come up with good, reasonable policies, but the Pubes shoot them down with finely toned emotional rhetoric.
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Yep, the media hyped these people as heroes for almost a decade now. But the government leaves them to go crawl in a corner and die. Not the best policy to encourage people to be courageous. No wonder no one wants to be a hero anymore.
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Yep, the media hyped these people as heroes for almost a decade now. But the government leaves them to go crawl in a corner and die. Not the best policy to encourage people to be courageous. No wonder no one wants to be a hero anymore.

Not just the media - some of the very same politicians who are now blocking the bill.
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Apparently the big worry now is that Democrats want to go home for Christmas and aren't willing to put off their travel plans for a day or two to see this through.

Democrats fear absentees will kill 9/11 bill
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These people are being used as political symbols by both parties. While they do deserve the benefits offered in the bill, so do all Americans including the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Americans facing similarly dire medical catastrophes.
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Yeah, the problem is that the Dems have never been good at delivering a cohesive, hard hitting message.

Republicans are better at character assassination too.

Sadly you are right about all of that.

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Apparently the big worry now is that Democrats want to go home for Christmas and aren't willing to put off their travel plans for a day or two to see this through.

Democrats fear absentees will kill 9/11 bill

Lazy gits, all of them.
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While they do deserve the benefits offered in the bill, so do all Americans including the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Americans facing similarly dire medical catastrophes.

Exactly! I say this in absolute no disrespect to how courageous and brave these people were, but they were fulfilling their job. Thank God we have people who work as firemen, police officers, Emergency Responders, etc. These people are heros every day and face dangerous situations in their daily job. Does the fireman who responded to 9/11 deserve more care than the one injured trying to put out a fire right down the street in your own town? I dont see how that person is less a hero at all. We should be focused on providing for all Americans and not just those who we think have "earned the right". Many people are unable to be insured because of terrible preexisting conditions, thats the problem that needs to be solved (which obviously INCLUDES insuring these 9/11 responders!).
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Exactly! I say this in absolute no disrespect to how courageous and brave these people were, but they were fulfilling their job. Thank God we have people who work as firemen, police officers, Emergency Responders, etc. These people are heros every day and face dangerous situations in their daily job. Does the fireman who responded to 9/11 deserve more care than the one injured trying to put out a fire right down the street in your own town? I dont see how that person is less a hero at all. We should be focused on providing for all Americans and not just those who we think have "earned the right". Many people are unable to be insured because of terrible preexisting conditions, thats the problem that needs to be solved (which obviously INCLUDES insuring these 9/11 responders!).

The difference being that the fireman who was injured while trying to put out a fire down the street gets Worker's compensation....whereas the 9/11 responders are often rejected due to their inflictions not being covered by their employment plans. The insurers dismiss these claims as having no correspondence to responding to 9/11.
If there were only one or two or ten such claimants all expressing different symptoms, I would give the insurers the benefit of the doubt....but when there is such a high proportion of responders expressing similar illnesses, then logic or even common sense should prevail. But it never does!!!
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