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03-28-2017 03:01 AM
BlueMts
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Originally Posted by Naturebound View Post
3 hours a day at the gym? Eek. I have too much of a life for that. But I go about 1.5 hours per day five days per week. I don't work out for weight loss though (used to as part of my anorexia nervosa). I actually enjoy physical activity. And I don't limit it to the cardio machines or lifting weights. I love to dance, and do Pilates, stretching, row machine etc. In summer I shift more of my activity outside, cycling to work and elsewhere, hiking, even dancing outside in the grass. I really hate this recent attitude in the fitness community that the only exercise that counts as anything is lifting weights. Or running. Sighs.

I personally think 3 hours a day in the gym is a bit excessive unless you are an athlete. And it's not something most people can sustain for a lifetime (with kids, full time work, volunteering, injuries, social life etc).
As Thalassa pointed out I was being facetious.

Just trying to point out that it is easy for some people but for many people not so easy for many reasons.

I did go to the Gym for 3 to 4 hrs 5 days a week though. It became obsessive - lifting weights can be addictive. Had to ease back to exercising at home when my mum had a stroke.

Sounds like you get a good mix of exercise.
03-28-2017 02:29 AM
Naturebound
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Originally Posted by BlueMts View Post
It's easy to loose weight and maintain a healthy weight.

Just burn more calories than you eat.

Eat food that is good for you (be a vegan or vegetarian)

Go to the gym 6 days a week for at least 3 hrs a day

Most importantly don't take drugs to prevent migraine or drugs like lithium carbonate and don't have hereditary lymphodema or Leukoencephalopathy and don't take any drugs for the myriad of symptoms caused by that.

See - easy. Anyone can do it.
3 hours a day at the gym? Eek. I have too much of a life for that. But I go about 1.5 hours per day five days per week. I don't work out for weight loss though (used to as part of my anorexia nervosa). I actually enjoy physical activity. And I don't limit it to the cardio machines or lifting weights. I love to dance, and do Pilates, stretching, row machine etc. In summer I shift more of my activity outside, cycling to work and elsewhere, hiking, even dancing outside in the grass. I really hate this recent attitude in the fitness community that the only exercise that counts as anything is lifting weights. Or running. Sighs.

I personally think 3 hours a day in the gym is a bit excessive unless you are an athlete. And it's not something most people can sustain for a lifetime (with kids, full time work, volunteering, injuries, social life etc).
03-28-2017 02:12 AM
Ger Jonker I was able to quickly lose 20 lbs and keep it off simply by replacing all the sugar that I usually put in all the cups of coffee and tea that I normally drink with SweetLeaf Stevia Tabs. Stevia is a 0 calorie sweetener that is derived from the leaves of a plant that is native to Brazil and Paraguay. I choose the SweetLeaf brand when I buy stevia because their products are all-natural.

I also keep away from processed foods.
03-12-2017 09:40 PM
BlueMts
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Originally Posted by Symondezyn View Post
I think about all the "diets" i went on throughout my life, the heartbreaking obsession with my weight, and the emotional roller coaster that goes along with that struggle, and it makes me sad. First and foremost, I have to state that I think we are FAR too obsessed with "thinness" as a culture, and far too many people are striving towards an ideal that is not right for their bodies. A healthy weight isn't necessarily "thin", and that's something that I really hope our society figures out sooner rather than later. We need to learn to celebrate good health, and the diversity of what that looks like on all different body shapes and types.

I went vegan for the animals, not to lose weight. Ironically, since becoming vegan, I have maintained a healthy weight with little to no effort. I stress "healthy" because I am not thin, though I am not fat either. I eat a balanced diet full of healthy whole foods, to be sure, but I don't deny myself yummy vegan treats either, when I feel like it. My personal vegan lifestyle is about compassion, and that extends to myself as well - after all, we're animals too ^_^
I would just like to make it very clear that my post - post #9 had nothing to do with your post #8.

Symondesyn, I agree with you completely. Sorry if it seemed otherwise.
03-12-2017 06:16 PM
BlueMts
Who, me ?

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Originally Posted by Thalassa View Post
I get the feeling that you're being facetious. ..
Just a bit but it is all true if you are healthy - except for the "anyone can do it part". The walking and the gym and the migraine preventing drug where all me. I know a number people(one very close) who gained masses of weight on lithium while eating a healthy veg diets and exercising like mad.

The leukoencephalopathy is me 5 yrs of tests(and more tests and more tests) and no name for it just info that the holes in my white matter are starting to join into larger holes. I had constant weight fluctuations depending on what meds I was on. I've been veggie since my teens.

I'm still eating the same diet but have developed hereditary lymphedema in both legs which means my base weight has gone up but still fluctuates.

The other side of the coin is the close friend of my DH who has Crohns disease. Also a veggie but too thin. Most people are lucky like his wife - she eats the same diet and she has no weight problems.

If we add to this all the things you said then it isn't so easy (and I was being facetious about it being easy) for a lot of people (veg or not) and the "wonder diet" that was raved about will not be the magical thing that cures all their weight and health problems. If it worked for the OP then good luck to her and I really hope it continues to work for her.

Anyway, we are veg for the animals not our health or weight.

AND there is nothing wrong with a little bit of comfort eating
03-12-2017 04:03 PM
Thalassa The most difficult part of weight loss is if you take medication which encourages weight gain, for a variety of health issues, as well as people who have experienced obesity or even chubbiness at a previous point in their life may have a harder time losing weight than someone who has always been at most a moderate weight.

Then there are people who eat emotionally (while others starve themselves, some people binge eat comfort foods when depressed or severely stressed) and people who forget how many calories there are in alcohol.

I think being vegan encourages a healthier weight automatically but not necessarily thinness, because a big eater may still be a big eater, and that is still going to count if someone especially likes high calorie faux meats or vegan snacks like potato chips or candy.

I try to listen to my body more, for example it's best to drink orange juice or eat an apple if I am craving something sweet and sour, instead of a bag of Sour Patch Kids, which are technically vegan, sweet and sour, but around 250 calories for a bag filled with crap. I mean really though they're pure crap, it's not even like eating dark chocolate or potato chips, which provide some nutrition.

But on the other hand, I like things like Tofurky, and comfort foods, and I'm certainly not going to stop eating them entirely.

I think for some people being an average or healthy weight is good enough or better than being thin. Being thin does take effort, because even if you are physically active, some calorie restrictions are required, since eating a desirable amount of calories usually only serves to maintain current weight (as long as one isn't actually past the clinical obesity mark, your body will try to stay the same weight, even if a bit chubby).

Also, I didn't get a chance to see Silvas comment before it was deleted, but I have a feeling why...the tone of your post suggests the raw til four diet, or something else associated with Freelee, where some people lost weight, but others gained it because they weren't marathon cyclists and couldn't handle all the binging on fruit.
03-12-2017 03:45 PM
Thalassa
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Originally Posted by BlueMts View Post
It's easy to loose weight and maintain a healthy weight.

Just burn more calories than you eat.

Eat food that is good for you (be a vegan or vegetarian)

Go to the gym 6 days a week for at least 3 hrs a day

Most importantly don't take drugs to prevent migraine or drugs like lithium carbonate and don't have hereditary lymphodema or Leukoencephalopathy and don't take any drugs for the myriad of symptoms caused by that.

See - easy. Anyone can do it.

I get the feeling that you're being facetious. ..
03-10-2017 10:15 PM
BlueMts It's easy to loose weight and maintain a healthy weight.

Just burn more calories than you eat.

Eat food that is good for you (be a vegan or vegetarian)

Go to the gym 6 days a week for at least 3 hrs a day

Most importantly don't take drugs to prevent migraine or drugs like lithium carbonate and don't have hereditary lymphodema or Leukoencephalopathy and don't take any drugs for the myriad of symptoms caused by that.

See - easy. Anyone can do it.
03-10-2017 04:40 PM
Symondezyn I think about all the "diets" i went on throughout my life, the heartbreaking obsession with my weight, and the emotional roller coaster that goes along with that struggle, and it makes me sad. First and foremost, I have to state that I think we are FAR too obsessed with "thinness" as a culture, and far too many people are striving towards an ideal that is not right for their bodies. A healthy weight isn't necessarily "thin", and that's something that I really hope our society figures out sooner rather than later. We need to learn to celebrate good health, and the diversity of what that looks like on all different body shapes and types.

I went vegan for the animals, not to lose weight. Ironically, since becoming vegan, I have maintained a healthy weight with little to no effort. I stress "healthy" because I am not thin, though I am not fat either. I eat a balanced diet full of healthy whole foods, to be sure, but I don't deny myself yummy vegan treats either, when I feel like it. My personal vegan lifestyle is about compassion, and that extends to myself as well - after all, we're animals too ^_^
03-10-2017 12:04 PM
Knowtions In Motion Way to go, Manala, and thank you for sharing! I unintentionally, yet very gratefully (definitely not gracefully.....lol), lost 110 lbs. within a year and a half of switching to mainly whole foods plant-based eating. I also pay close attention to my intake of mucus and pus forming foods. I eliminated all meat, dairy, eggs, alcohol, and caffeine. I weighed at least 310 lbs. when I started.

Unfortunately, I was prompted by a medical emergency so I dove in head first by trying raw vegan and juice fasting and learned the hard way that my body responds much more kindly to s-l-o-w-l-y becoming acclimated. I managed to stay vegan after my overnight switch, but had to reel in the desire to be fully raw. I eventually got it figured out thanks to some one-on-one guidance and support from a long-time fruitarian friend. I still learn more as I go and no longer set myself up with the unrealistic expectation (at this time) of going fully raw.

However, over the winter, I started shopping for and cooking big batch vegan meals for my mom, who still eats the standard american diet, and started eating more of the packaged and highly processed vegan foods, meat replacements, vegan cheeses, gluten-free pastas and breads, more peanut butter than usual with some dairy free chocolate chips added on occasion, and a lot more potatoes, mainly in the chip variety, and have packed at least 25 pounds back on. How ironic, in trying to get her healthier has created temptations I can't seem to fight, taking me right back to my danger zone. lol Can't wait for garden season to be in full swing again so I can get back into what certainly feels like my healthiest and lightest groove.
02-06-2017 12:42 AM
Manala
yes: not being hungry and still losing weight!

I do believe that it is a benefit from not eating animals, that may contain nutrients but mostly contain fats and are hard to ingest for our body. I follow tha Fork Over knives principles (or 80/10/10 but not raw at all) and I only wish I knew it before, no need for deprivation anymore, just the right choices of food and eating becomes the solution, not the problem.
02-04-2017 12:19 PM
VeggieNewbie08 I personally don't find weight-loss or diet programs helpful - I think you become consumed over thinking about food and it's not healthy. Manala, it's great that you're doing so well. Do you think it's because you're now eating as a vegetarian or vegan? As a new vegetarian, I'm curious if it will make me feel healthier/keep off extra weight that came with eating meat.
02-04-2017 10:10 AM
silva Okay, I was harsh-I jumped to a conclusion that this was going to be a promotion for a product or service, and I shouldn't have made that assumption

Whole food, plant based diets are truly the way to eat- always, if you wish to maintain optimal health.

I was at my best when I followed Dr. Furhmans Eat to Live program.
So right about never being hungry, and eating lots, but I did end up feeling quite consumed about food, like orthorexia, and OCD about keeping it whole out of ingredient worries
02-04-2017 08:49 AM
Jamie in Chile Silva, that is harsh, and why does everything have to have a clearly defined point anyway. I don't see what your issue is here.

Hi Manala, I think what you have done is obviously working for you, so keep up with it. Of course, not everyone needs exactly the same solution.

I personally found before moving to a healthy vegan diet with more fruits and veg that I had to choose between going on hungry and losing weight, but now I never go hungry.

I think reducing meat and processed foods is helpful for avoiding weight gain, at least it has been in my case.

However, for many people, it's still not a good idea to eat too much, no matter what the type of foods. I think eating until not hungry rather than feeling very full is still good advice for many.
02-04-2017 04:16 AM
Manala
20lbs down while eating a TON: How I kept the weight off for 2years with NO DIETING w

I can't help but share this with you, I only wish I found out the secret sauce to be thin without dieting when I was in the darkest years of my life, binging, hating my body (even though it was my early 20s and it was supposed to be the happier time of my life).
I now eat as much as I want of all my favorite yummy recipes (that I make from scratch with whole foods mainly plant-based and ton of flavory added on it) while having as many servings or meals a day as I wish.
The biggest mistake I used to make is NOT EATING ENOUGH which led to the bad food choices, too much fat to deal with the urgent hunger, the obsession about the next meal and "what I can/should have".
Now I feel incredible both inside and outside and am never hungry for more than the 5 to 10 minutes it takes me to grab or cook a yummy meal/snack.

Bottom line: I FEEL great!

I am curious: Have you thought about whole foods abundance solution?
When do you think about weight loss the most?
What's so hard about it? Which parts? Why?

Wishing you all health and feeling good in the long-term!

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