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11-10-2015 11:52 AM
VeggieSince88 I'm undecided on this issue. Years ago, back in the '80s when I went veg, my best friend asked me the THEN hypothetical question, "if meat could be cloned/made in a lab, would you eat it?" Since my reason, then, for being veg was the cruelty involved in raising/killing animals for their flesh, I said I might. Since then, I've evolved into much more of a Hindu stance on it, i.e., not eating/using anything that once had a soul. So, for me, eating meat or using leather/sheepskin/whatever that was raised and killed humanely is not an option. But, when it comes to scientifically created 'meat'? I don't know! I guess that if the original cells came from living animals, why not?! But...on the other hand...I firmly believe that eating flesh, after all these years and everything, would be gross, regardless of how it came to be.
11-10-2015 10:02 AM
leedsveg
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Yup, I agree. A local college in my city uses human cadavers for some of their upper level anatomy and physiology classes, not animals. The humans obviously gave their permission for their bodies to be used before they died. That's so much better than using animals supplied from factory farms and euthanized animals from shelters. It creates less of a demand for animals (this goes for high schools and colleges) and creates more respect for the subject matter.
I want to see about donating my body. I certainly won't have any use for it.
11-10-2015 02:37 AM
Naturebound
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well i'm made from meat and i'd voluntarily donate a few cells to get things going! I'm already a blood donor, a potential organ donor and thinking of leaving my body to medical science, so why not?

Coming soon : Leedsveg-burgers (sold in cans for those who like their food cannibal...)
11-10-2015 02:36 AM
Naturebound
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Why would I be joking about it? I can't see a problem in me donating cells from my body to make cultured meat. Nobody has to eat the meat so produced unless they really want to. I would still be alive so don't really regard it as cannibalism. For me, it's no more cannibalism than organ donation.
Yup, I agree. A local college in my city uses human cadavers for some of their upper level anatomy and physiology classes, not animals. The humans obviously gave their permission for their bodies to be used before they died. That's so much better than using animals supplied from factory farms and euthanized animals from shelters. It creates less of a demand for animals (this goes for high schools and colleges) and creates more respect for the subject matter.
11-10-2015 01:19 AM
leedsveg
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Is that a joke? Because that's still cannibalism.
Why would I be joking about it? I can't see a problem in me donating cells from my body to make cultured meat. Nobody has to eat the meat so produced unless they really want to. I would still be alive so don't really regard it as cannibalism. For me, it's no more cannibalism than organ donation.
11-09-2015 04:28 PM
Thalassa4
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I'd eat meat developed from voluntarily donated human cells.
Is that a joke? Because that's still cannibalism.
11-09-2015 04:26 PM
Thalassa4 I think that's gross, but if it keeps factory farming to a minimum or non existence for others, that's fine. I feel the same way about farming locusts.
11-09-2015 03:10 PM
Blobbenstein I don't know if a printer would be needed.

I imagine a thin film of cells being spun onto a spinning tube.
11-09-2015 05:46 AM
leedsveg
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If it could be made without animal exploitation, but I don't think that's possible.
Well I'm made from meat and I'd voluntarily donate a few cells to get things going! I'm already a blood donor, a potential organ donor and thinking of leaving my body to medical science, so why not?

Coming soon : Leedsveg-burgers (sold in cans for those who like their food cannibal...)
11-07-2015 04:05 PM
Pirate Huntress If it could be made without animal exploitation, but I don't think that's possible.
10-31-2015 09:54 PM
kamizushi As things are right now, the idea of eating meat kinda grosses me out and I have some concerns about how they'd prevent the meat from getting infected (I assume they would use antibiotic), but otherwise I'm fine with that. I guess I will wait and see. If the idea of in vitro meat ever get somewhere, I doubt it could be worse that what we have right now.
10-31-2015 07:28 PM
Sadrielle
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I'd eat meat developed from voluntarily donated human cells.
Ew. I'm sure they would check and see whether or not their donors have the harmful prions, but all I can think about from that is kuru disease.

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Incidentally, I'm not entirely sure that would be an industry that would take off--if it did, it'd have to happen pretty far into the future. The lab work required to clone meat sounds more expensive than common slaughter, and there'd have to be an entire branch of regulatory business suits governing all of it.
10-31-2015 04:00 PM
Shandong I have to say no. I can't stop thinking of the fact that I would be eating something dead (even if it is a 3d copy of a dead creature)...Yuck
10-31-2015 01:04 PM
busyvegetarians
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I'd eat meat developed from voluntarily donated human cells.
I didn't thought about that, It's weird. Is like indirect canibalism. If eating animal meat makes me nervous, human meat makes me more nervous
10-31-2015 12:58 PM
busyvegetarians I'm a techie boy so from side of science is really interesting but I would wonder the nutritional facts of this kind of meat. What happen if the producer do not put enough nutrients in order to reduce cost. What happen if this technology is used by evil persons. If this technology become popular many paradigms in our society will change.
10-29-2015 10:29 AM
bldudas That sounds disgusting. And weird.
I don't eat meat substitutes because they are disgusting and send the wrong message (we need it to survive), so I definitely won't eat something from a printer.
10-29-2015 06:14 AM
Ukvege That is really disgusting. I don't eat meat for ethical reasons, and for just plain gross-ness. I don't like the idea of eating flesh, blood, muscle, tendon, veins, organs...eww. Its like being a zombie. Plus, animals had a soul. I don't want to eat something that had a soul, or a brain, or heart, or breathed, or heck even went to the bathroom.
Also, meat is already dead. It is rotten when it is sold in stores. It is rotten if it is created in a lab. That can't be good for you; health wise or spiritual.
Also, science should be using this time and technology to maybe, I don't know, restore trees and start projects that actually help the planet, not just feed its gluttony?

I don't care if it was volunteered meat, or created from a lab. That is still wasteful, and it is kind of destructive. I mean, this is starting to cross into Mary Shelly's Frankenstein here.
10-26-2015 03:37 PM
Kiwibird08 I wouldn't eat fake meat any more than I would real meat. It's gross, unappetizing and bad for your health. However, I would not morally object to others eating 3D printed or lab grown meat.
10-26-2015 02:35 PM
silva I have a very hard time believing it would change the numbers in animals enslaved or slaughtered. As long as the general consensus is that humans need to eat meat, 'real' meat will take on a new aura. I would guess the biggest difference would be the price of meat, with even crappier cheap cuts than there are now.
We've managed to get away from many foods that used to be eaten regularly. How many Americans eat grubs, or tripe, or brains? Some, but few because they've become distasteful. We need to create a culture that views eating meat as something unfit for human consumption, not raise it to such a level that we would artificially create it when it becomes unwieldy.
What would a blackmarket animal meat factory be like? It's bound to happen as long as the market is there and farmed meat is costly. I can imagine cats and dogs--as we often say "why eat one and love another?" That could easily be turned into "why not?", like there fur sold on cheap clothing

I love the idea cloning, or printing, organs. Far better to clone a human heart than use one from a pig.

If lab meat could only be made cheaply enough and nutritious enough for cats to eat.
10-26-2015 11:30 AM
TailFin
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What do you think about this technology, do you think meat industry is condemned to die? Are you willing to eat this kind of meat?
I'm all for new technology. If it helps us move forward intellectually as a society, I'm probably for it. So, I'm for 3D printing of anything.

I would be willing to eat this meat, assuming it is sourced properly and ethically. I would also be willing to put 3D printed organs inside my body. If I need it to survive, I can't find one elsewhere, and I will die without it, why not try it? I have nothing to lose.

That said, as long as the meat industry has money, they will likely not be condemned to die.
10-26-2015 10:41 AM
Windigo I have a big distrust for anything aritifical; so no I would definitely not eat ''printed'' meat. I would also be very sceptical of a replacement organ made by a printer. The thought gives me the creeps.
10-26-2015 10:41 AM
Everly I've lived too long to say "never", but I tend to agree with NWJ above (esp. the part about it replacing animal "farming").
10-26-2015 10:37 AM
no whey jose I wouldn't personally eat any kind of meat, because yuck-- but if this sort of thing becomes a reality and replaces animal agriculture, I will be thrilled.
10-26-2015 10:23 AM
leedsveg I'd eat meat developed from voluntarily donated human cells.
10-26-2015 10:12 AM
busyvegetarians
What do you think about Meat Printers?

Hello everybody:

I was reading several articles about how 3D printing is evolving and I read one interesting article about a biomedical start up who want to develop a meat printer. The main idea is to develp human organs, but I'm thinking that if you can print a human heart, you could print a cow leg.
What do you think about this technology, do you think meat industry is condemned to die? Are you willing to eat this kind of meat?

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