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07-15-2008 06:38 AM
Brandon
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Originally Posted by Irizary View Post

Welcome. Veg*n encompasses both vegETARIAn and vegAn, as the letters that differentiate them are removed







Kristtavegan, you might want to familiarize yourself with the Frequently Asked Questions thread, which is located here in the Community Assistance area.

http://www.veggieboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=347



Congratulations on going vegan!
07-15-2008 01:03 AM
Irizary
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Originally Posted by kristtavegan View Post

HI there!

I'm new here and would love some support =D but what I came to ask is why sometimes people spell vegan like veg*n?? Hehe I'm such a newbie!



Welcome. Veg*n encompasses both vegETARIAn and vegAn, as the letters that differentiate them are removed
07-15-2008 12:25 AM
kristtavegan HI there!

I'm new here and would love some support =D but what I came to ask is why sometimes people spell vegan like veg*n?? Hehe I'm such a newbie!
07-14-2008 11:25 PM
IamJen Yeah, because no one would ever enter a false birth date.



Also, there is some advantage to the Teen Forum being seen by non-teens. Troubling posts can be spotted (someone being abused or suffering from an eating disorder or whatever). Also, many times, things are posted there, but are later moved to an open forum after someone notes that the person's post would get more responses if it weren't in the Teen Forum. As for why VB "needs" the forum, of course it's not an essential item (none of the forums are, really). However, it's a nice place for teens to chat with others their own age. Might wanna knock that chip off your shoulder, dude.



Others have already mentioned the "new to vegetarianism" forum being for the almost veg*ns. Michael has the forum description reading "New and potential vegetarians can ask questions here." I don't think people are jumping all over potential vegheads there, but "potential" is a key word, I think. We've had several people lately whose attitude has been "I'm eating chicken, and I don't plan to go veg, but I'm doing something for the environment. I know this is VeggieBoards, but it's my right to be here, so up yours." *Those* folks have other websites that they can visit aside from VeggieBoards.
07-14-2008 08:31 PM
Byzantea
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Originally Posted by Michael View Post

The forum software can not magically detect whether or not someone is a teen, therefore everyone sees the forum.



The craziest things happen with databases and birth dates.
07-14-2008 07:42 PM
Mr. Sun
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Originally Posted by rabid_child View Post




And with regards to other comments in this thread... the majority of thread editing and disciplinary action is performed in response to posts and threads reported by VB members. We don't just send warnings and infractions on whims. There are also rules in place that govern our actions. The moderators volunteer their time to keep the boards running as well as we are able. We don't get anything for doing it, and we're only human and doing the best that we can. If the moderating/board maintenance around here is something that a member really disagrees with, there's nothing to stop them from not logging in anymore.



Gotta say: I know people who have been on other forums that have been poorly moderated and it really wasn't much fun for them. VB is well moderated, imo, and allows for many views within the veg*n perspective. Generally these boards run pretty peacefully and I think that is thanks to Michael and the mods he picks. I would never want to be a mod.
07-14-2008 07:30 PM
rabid_child
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Originally Posted by Tyness View Post

Agreed...but most people on here who are not quite there YET want to be there soon. This is supposed to be a safe place for vegetarians, but many people are scare of the idea and need to know there is a safe place if they decide. I do not think there is anything wrong with someone who is not a veg. comming on here just to find out more. Maybe they never wanted to be a veg...until they read some of this information



And there's nothing stopping them from reading, and even posting, as long as their posts are discussing vegetarian topics. You could come on here as a hardcore meat eater who has no intention of giving it up, and if all you do is post in the food forum about different ways to prepare vegetables we would never know. There's no way to prove that anyone is or is not vegetarian. One has to respect, however, that this is a vegetarian forum and with the exceptions of threads with people talking about going vegetarian, or discussing challenges they're having, that sort of thing, discussion about eating meat is not allowed here. Unfortunately, people often come on with no intention of being veg and are just here to troll and stir up trouble. We try to make distinctions between the two, but if half of someone's posts are about eating fish, then some red flags are going to go up.



And with regards to other comments in this thread... the majority of thread editing and disciplinary action is performed in response to posts and threads reported by VB members. We don't just send warnings and infractions on whims. There are also rules in place that govern our actions. The moderators volunteer their time to keep the boards running as well as we are able. We don't get anything for doing it, and we're only human and doing the best that we can. If the moderating/board maintenance around here is something that a member really disagrees with, there's nothing to stop them from not logging in anymore.
07-14-2008 05:02 PM
Tyness
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Originally Posted by rabid_child View Post

I believe that more people than not are supportive in the New to Veg forum when someone comes in still eating some sort of meat when they are interested in transitioning to vegetarianism. Pescatarianism as an end is generally not supported because this is a vegetarian board, and "just" eating one sort of animal is still eating an animal and these boards are meant to be a safe place for *vegetarians*. If we allow pescatarians who are not transitioning to vegetarianism, how is that really different than allowing people who just eat cows, or who just eat pigs? They may all be interested in being vegetarian eventually, but the line has to be drawn somewhere, and that line is drawn at people who are eating meat who aren't trying to become vegetarians.



That said, if you don't talk about it, we don't know what you're doing.



Agreed...but most people on here who are not quite there YET want to be there soon. This is supposed to be a safe place for vegetarians, but many people are scare of the idea and need to know there is a safe place if they decide. I do not think there is anything wrong with someone who is not a veg. comming on here just to find out more. Maybe they never wanted to be a veg...until they read some of this information
07-14-2008 04:53 PM
Michael
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Originally Posted by Brandon View Post

I believe that's the purpose behind us having the "New to Vegetarianism" section here. Right next to that title, it says "New and potential vegetarians can ask questions here."



A pescetarian who has no interest in giving up the meat or going completely vegetarian is, in essence, violating the terms of service they agreed to when registering.



On the other hand, a pescetarian/pollo-a-tarian/whatever who does want to go completely vegetarian would definitely be a "potential vegetarian" as referenced above.



That pretty much sums it up.



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Originally Posted by Soy 6-Pack View Post

If adults are not allowed to post in a forum, they're probably not allowed to read it. So why do they have access to it? Lazy mods who can't be bothered to do more than send people infractions and warnings?



The forum software can not magically detect whether or not someone is a teen, therefore everyone sees the forum.
07-14-2008 04:16 PM
Byzantea If adults are not allowed to post in a forum, they're probably not allowed to read it. So why do they have access to it? Lazy mods who can't be bothered to do more than send people infractions and warnings?
07-14-2008 04:00 PM
rabid_child I believe that more people than not are supportive in the New to Veg forum when someone comes in still eating some sort of meat when they are interested in transitioning to vegetarianism. Pescatarianism as an end is generally not supported because this is a vegetarian board, and "just" eating one sort of animal is still eating an animal and these boards are meant to be a safe place for *vegetarians*. If we allow pescatarians who are not transitioning to vegetarianism, how is that really different than allowing people who just eat cows, or who just eat pigs? They may all be interested in being vegetarian eventually, but the line has to be drawn somewhere, and that line is drawn at people who are eating meat who aren't trying to become vegetarians.



That said, if you don't talk about it, we don't know what you're doing.
07-14-2008 03:41 PM
Tyness
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Originally Posted by Tempeh-Tantrums View Post

(emphasis mine)



They should feel comfortable there. But often, I see "almost vegetarians" criticised for their "almost" status.



Like "I'm trying to go veg and cut out the chicken..." and all the answers are something to the effect of: "You're not vegetarian if you eat chicken - boo - hiss!!!" "This board is for veg*ns!! Just stop eating chicken, it's easy-bla-bla-bla"... no actual SUPPORT, just criticising them for not already reaching the gold standard of veg*n living



This is what I feel as well, and I know some others feel this way. I think talking down to people or making them feel unwanted helps no one. Many people in society are foreign to why people go veg*n, and we need to put a good name out there, not support the idea that veg*n's are crazy. It is made to help people feel comfortable and help them transition into a new lifestyle, but that is not always what is done.
07-14-2008 02:55 PM
Tempeh-Tantrums
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Originally Posted by Amy SF View Post

Potential and transitioning veg*ans should feel comfortable in the New to Vegetarianism forum. The purpose of that forum is to offer guidance and support for such members.



(emphasis mine)



They should feel comfortable there. But often, I see "almost vegetarians" criticised for their "almost" status.



Like "I'm trying to go veg and cut out the chicken..." and all the answers are something to the effect of: "You're not vegetarian if you eat chicken - boo - hiss!!!" "This board is for veg*ns!! Just stop eating chicken, it's easy-bla-bla-bla"... no actual SUPPORT, just criticising them for not already reaching the gold standard of veg*n living.



That said, I still think we don't need another sub-forum, it would just be nice, I guess (I dream) if there were more "support" and "understanding" for those who don't transition as instantly as others have...
07-14-2008 12:47 PM
Amy SF
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Originally Posted by Mr. Sun View Post

If I was allowed in that forum I would tell them to go to bed at a decent hour and to clean up their rooms.



Precisely why you're not allowed in the Teen Forum.



I am in complete agreement with Brandon's post. Potential and transitioning veg*ans should feel comfortable in the New to Vegetarianism forum. The purpose of that forum is to offer guidance and support for such members.
07-14-2008 12:39 PM
Mr. Sun
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Originally Posted by synergy View Post

The teen forum has a point for teens. They like being able to hang and discuss without adults butting in.



If I was allowed in that forum I would tell them to go to bed at a decent hour and to clean up their rooms.
07-14-2008 12:19 PM
synergy
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Originally Posted by Soy 6-Pack View Post

I think a lot of the compartmentalization done here is pointless. A teen forum? Why does that exist? Why am I even allowed to see it? I'm not a teen. On the other hand, letting meat eaters in here would ruin the whole atmosphere.



The teen forum has a point for teens. They like being able to hang and discuss without adults butting in.
07-14-2008 12:10 PM
sybaritik
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Originally Posted by Brandon View Post

[color=green]I believe that's the purpose behind us having the "New to Vegetarianism" section here. Right next to that title, it says "New and potential vegetarians can ask questions here."





I have to admit, I didn't see the word 'potential vegetarians' in that forum so I guess it isn't necessary.





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Originally Posted by Soy 6-Pack View Post

A teen forum? Why does that exist? Why am I even allowed to see it? I'm not a teen.





So it's all about you and your needs is it?
07-14-2008 12:05 PM
Byzantea I think a lot of the compartmentalization done here is pointless. A teen forum? Why does that exist? Why am I even allowed to see it? I'm not a teen. On the other hand, letting meat eaters in here would ruin the whole atmosphere.
07-14-2008 12:02 PM
Brandon I believe that's the purpose behind us having the "New to Vegetarianism" section here. Right next to that title, it says "New and potential vegetarians can ask questions here."



A pescetarian who has no interest in giving up the meat or going completely vegetarian is, in essence, violating the terms of service they agreed to when registering.



On the other hand, a pescetarian/pollo-a-tarian/whatever who does want to go completely vegetarian would definitely be a "potential vegetarian" as referenced above.
07-14-2008 11:50 AM
sybaritik I agree that it would be good to have a transitional forum but I don't think there's much chance of it happening.
07-14-2008 11:49 AM
Byzantea Do you feel comfortable in the vegetarian and vegan forums as they are? I think supporting newly awakened people is part of their purpose, isn't it?
07-14-2008 11:42 AM
Tyness I am new here, have been here like a week and am loving it. I was reading through some older posts (and on some it has taken me forever ot get through them lol) and noticed some others who have made the suggestion that there should be a support forum for almost vegetarians those who are just not there yet but want to be one day, like many pescatarians. Well, I second this suggestion. I think it would be very helpful, and I know it would help me! Thanks just my input

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