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live2dream 01-29-2012 09:12 AM

Since I went vegan 3 months ago, my face and back have been breaking out horribly! I thought at first it was a detox and would go away after a couple months, but it's worse than ever! I've never had acne like this in my entire life

My husband is saying he's worried about me that I'm lacking something from giving up animal products that is causing the acne. Sounds ridiculous I know, but I'm getting so desperate that I've even thought of adding a tiny bit of organic grassfed yogurt or something into my diet just to see if it helps. Maybe it was the hormones keeping my skin clear all these years.

I went off chemical birth control a year ago (around the same time I stopped eating meat) and my face started breaking out a bit then, but when i cut out dairy and eggs, my skin is a mess. I don't even want to go out in public, I have to wear shirts that cover my back and wear a ton of mineral powder to cover my face. I can't stand it. My husband thinks I should go in and get my levels checked.

But what could I be missing? I take my B12 and D supplements. I eat a variety of foods, many raw. I thought maybe it's candida and I should stop eating wheat. But damn, I've already cut out so much and already have to be so careful about not eating dairy, eggs and meat...now wheat? I've also heard about taking high doses of colloidal silver to kill candida that might clear acne. It's expensive though, but may be my next move.

Am I the only one going through this? I've always heard to be vegan, you'll have clear glowing radiant skin. I had that before. Now I don't.

rags. 01-29-2012 09:15 AM

Sorry to hear that. Sounds horrid for you!

Are you eating a lot more of anything?

yellowduckie21 01-29-2012 09:17 AM

It could be that the birth control is finally out of your system and that's why your acne is getting worse. Did you have really bad acne before you started the birth control?

4everaspirit 01-29-2012 09:36 AM

DO NOT TAKE COLLODIAL SILVER! IT'S extremely dangerous and caused several people to have silver skin all of a sudden one day, and now they hasve silver literally coming out of their skin.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...medicines.html


I have bad acne too, but it hasn't gotten worse or better ever since I went vegan. I actually go to a dermatologist that prescribed me medicine for it. I take amoxicillin. I don't like it because I know it's tested on animals, but I try and rationalize it, saying that I'm not taking it for beauty wise, rather too feel more comfortable (because I was extremely uncomfortable with such an oily face), and that when I'm living on my own I will find an alternative. I even told my doctor that I felt uncomfortable with the animal tested aspect and she sympathized with me saying that more and more people are feeling that way and she told me that there are likely alternatives out there I can try, if I want.

Sometimes it's just genteics, nothing about diet. I have had bad acne since 5th grade. Maybe you are just at a hormonal imbalance in your life and that's what is causing it.

LOL, being vegan makes you automatically have clear and radiant skin? It's not a miracle worker. If you take care of your skin, you will have better skin. That's all it is. Anyone promoting the vegan propaganda that it will make you look so much better, are just trying to win over narcissistic omnivores to the vegan side, totally shoving the animal concerns under the rug.

live2dream 01-29-2012 10:58 AM

That colloidal silver article freaked me out! I'm not sure if I want to do that now Although I take small doses when I'm sick and it's seems to help and not turn my skin silver, I'm not sure what taking high doses would do :/

This article makes me think: http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2012/...han-you-think/. I have The Body Ecology Diet book that I bought before going veg. I tried it for awhile and felt good at the time. I might just go in and get my candida levels checked. If that's the issue, then I'll go that route. Or maybe go back on birth control. I was hoping to stay off all meds that aren't natural unless absolutely necessary. The high levels of estrogen in the bc patch that could cause cancer freaks me out. But maybe I could try the pill again. Ugh. I hate the thought ((

vMaryv 01-29-2012 11:02 AM

my acne got worse about 3 months in too. I have acne prone, combination skin (oily t zone, normal cheeks) It's my 5th month and now my face is mostly clear again. I simplified my face care routine too. Using burts bee's Deep Cleasing Cream with a soft washcloth in the AM and PM and just putting Alba's Green Tea Moisturizer afterwards.
Hope that helps!
Also, the more I used to stress about it, the worse it got. I think just worrying about it makes it worse.

luvourmother 01-29-2012 11:15 AM

are you eating more soy or wheat or another kind of food since you stopped eating meat?


quitting birth control may be a reason also.

danakscully64 01-29-2012 11:31 AM

Yeah, messing with your hormones is VERY risky. When I stopped BC, my face went on full freakout mode for months. It cleared up on its own, thankfully.

What kind of face wash are you using now?

Rhys 01-29-2012 02:25 PM

Without birth control, I get some pretty bad nodular acne. I was having stress/hormonal acne issues again a little while ago and had to see my medical doctor about it because it was scarring me up big time and I was also having trouble leaving the house. She gave me an antibiotic/benzoyl peroxide topical ointment that's been clearing me up but it really dries my skin. I've had to start using a heavy duty moisturizer (olive oil...thanks VB!) to keep my skin from cracking and peeling. Hopefully I can stop the ointment in the near future and just be clear. Before seeking medical treatment, I was trying tea tree oil but got minimal results. It might help you though.

vincent 01-29-2012 03:23 PM

Yes, becoming vegan never cleared my skin, acne just carried on at the same sort of pace that it had done since my teens. I tried a wheat free diet for 4 months, back in 1998, but eliminating wheat had no effect at all. To say that when you go vegan, your skin clears up, i'm afraid is just a generalisation, as i have been vegan for over 15 years, and still get more and more acne every single day.:-(

Has anybody tried any of the Vit B5 supplements which are alleged to cure acne for some people?

Would anyone be willing to start an acne support thread here on Veggieboards?

Avid92 01-29-2012 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by vMaryv View Post

my acne got worse about 3 months in too. I have acne prone, combination skin (oily t zone, normal cheeks) It's my 5th month and now my face is mostly clear again. I simplified my face care routine too. Using burts bee's Deep Cleasing Cream with a soft washcloth in the AM and PM and just putting Alba's Green Tea Moisturizer afterwards.
Hope that helps!
Also, the more I used to stress about it, the worse it got. I think just worrying about it makes it worse.

Omg. that is exactly what I use for my skin care routine too! Except I don't bother with the washcloth. Why do you use it? Just wondering if there was any reason behind it.

azusapriss 01-31-2012 03:20 AM

I know how you are feeling. During adolescence I suffered of acne for years. After intensive treatment including rocuttene, 7 years ago, I was finally clear. Then my doctor suggested the pill to stabilize my periods and the minor breakouts I started to have after the previous mentioned treatment. For years I have been ok, but just recently went off the pill, 4 months ago or so (don't want anymore artificial hormones and drugs in my system), since then I have started to breakout again, I am waiting, and trying different things, hopping that my hormones will stabilize at some point again. I have read that can take months for the body to get rid of the pill and for the body to stabilize... dunno. I am taking B vitamins, coconut oil, I am even using it as a moisturizer, and as a cleaner baking soda, which seems to be working by drying out black and whiteheads. Trying to keep it natural.
By the way, its completely true that stressing about it makes it worse.
The support thread idea sounds good

Notty 01-31-2012 04:45 AM

Hi, I came off the pill at Christmas time. I also came off my anti-depressants (both of which I had been taking for nearly 15 years!) AND went vegan too after being veggie since I was 19 (i'm 34 now). I have noticed a few spots on my back too but that's bound to happen with such dramatic changes. I would doubt very much that being vegan has made you like that- are you eating anything new that you didn't eat as a vegetarian? If so, maybe you are allergic to something- soy maybe? It certainly won't be due to you not eating dairy anymore so I wouldn't worry about that! ; )
I honestly believe that spots are caused by one thing and one thing only and that's quite simply your hormones & genetics. I used to get terrible spots when I was younger and they've gone now; my mum was the same. And in the same way, you can get spots when you're older for no apparent reason. I wouldn't spend too much time using different cleansers etc as that's just for the outside of your skin and you'll end up just wasting your money- I don't think that will do much to change things. If you're really depressed about it, it may be worth going to the doctors. If you're eating well and drinking enough water, I don't think there's too much you can do apart from take some skin tablets prescribed by the doctor. It could well be that your body is having a massive de-tox but I'd say after about 5 months or so, if the spots are still there, I doubt very much it'll be that.
I know it's hard not to worry but the good thing is that your acne isn't permanent and it WILL go. x

vMaryv 01-31-2012 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Avid92 View Post

Omg. that is exactly what I use for my skin care routine too! Except I don't bother with the washcloth. Why do you use it? Just wondering if there was any reason behind it.

I use the washcloth for a mild exfloliation and to help the cleansing cream rinse awayh easier. Just find I have better results with it.

be_it 01-31-2012 09:33 AM

I used to break out terribly, birth control or no, from early teens until this last year. Oddly enough, what seemed to have been making me have terrible acne was the commercial cleansers on my sensitive skin. I did away with all cleansers except for cetaphyl soap free face wash, and even that I only do every so often. Instead I do a baking soda face mask twice weekly, wipe my face with one part apple cider vinegar to 8 parts water twice daily and use 99% pure aloe gel twice daily. Alarmingly, within the first couple of weeks I feel cleaner but looked the same, then about a month in my skin started clearing. Even when i break out now its a couple tiny ruddy bumps that go away quickly.

GhostUser 02-01-2012 12:59 PM

I've been reading a lot of negativity about the impact of gluten on our bodies and I came across this site: http://www.the-gluten-free-diet.com/...-and-acne.html. Why not give up the gluten for a month and see how your skin reacts? If it improves, fabulous. If not, well you gave it the 'good ole college try'! Far better than poisoning your body needlessly with antibiotics if the gluten free diet does work.

zike 02-01-2012 02:11 PM

Too much B12 can trigger acne (Acne medicamentosa)
Another problem could be high carbohydrate/protein ratio, which raises testosterone.

GhostUser 02-01-2012 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by zike View Post

Too much B12 can trigger acne (Acne medicamentosa)
Another problem could be high carbohydrate/protein ratio, which raises testosterone.

B12 isn't a medication so it isn't the cause of 'acne medicamentosa'.

zike 02-02-2012 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dieselsmom View Post

B12 isn't a medication so it isn't the cause of 'acne medicamentosa'.

Oh really. You need to do your homework.

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Acne medicamentosa is the development of acne vulgaris or an acneiform eruption with the use of certain medications. These medications include testosterone, progesterone,steroids, lithium, phenytoin, isoniazid, vitamins B2, B6, and B12, halogens, and epidermal growth factor inhibitors.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19932324

veganbunny 02-02-2012 07:35 AM

you should ask your doctor before you add dairy back into your diet. good luck.

Charlotte80 02-02-2012 07:56 AM

Sorry to hear you're having this problem
From what I've read, 3 months is not enough to develop a deficiency in most vitamins and minerals, so it would seem to me - as some others have also mentioned - that it's more likely that your acne is caused by something you've added to your diet, rather than something you've removed from it. Have you started consuming a lot more soy, for instance? Soy allergy can cause acne, as can a host of other allergies and intolerances.
I hope you find a solution!

GhostUser 02-04-2012 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by zike View Post

Oh really. You need to do your homework.



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19932324

Well I guess it just goes to show that there are a multiplicity of websites which each say a little bit different. But thank you very much for so kindly showing me my mistake. Certainly do appreciate that.

azusapriss 02-13-2012 05:26 PM

hi all, just an update and some info that might be helpful for other acne sufferer. Due to the diagnosis of another condition i started to look was natural antiflamatories, it had to be vegan too so fish oil and other supplement were out of the question. I stumbled across fax seed oil, and a website that show how many things is good for. One of them is acne!!! It seems that it can help a lot when the acne is being caused by hormonal imbalances. I have been taking it now for 2 days, so far so good, i have noticed no new pimples, and smoother skin. Have been taking 2 capsules per day. hope this info helps others.

vincent 02-14-2012 06:42 AM

I have been taking flax seed oil for nearly 8 years, but it hasn't helped my skin.

MiracleClay 02-14-2012 08:02 AM

Strange, I had a friend (girl, late 20's) go Vegan specifically because she had bad acne. By going vegan it helped balance her hormone levels (which apparently are affected by the amount of soy protein in some women) and her skin cleared up to flawlessness in under a month!

HotVeggieMama 02-14-2012 09:03 AM

Upping my zinc intake has helped with acne. Also, not using tons of stuff on my face helps too. Right now, I only wash with water or raw honey mixed with distilled/filtered water and followed by a little jojoba oil. I know oil seems counter intuitive for oily skin, but jojoba is like the natural sebum in our skin and hair. If I need to remove make up, I use a little oil to wipe it off and then wash with honey.

Mineral make-up also makes my skin worse and if you're using that it may be making it worse. How often do you clean your make-up brush/sponge? Are you using new cleansers for your face or new detergent to wash your clothing/bedding? It could be that something you are putting on your skin is also contributing to the problem.

Cassette 03-11-2012 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MiracleClay View Post

Strange, I had a friend (girl, late 20's) go Vegan specifically because she had bad acne. By going vegan it helped balance her hormone levels (which apparently are affected by the amount of soy protein in some women) and her skin cleared up to flawlessness in under a month!

This is me, too. I had bad hormonal acne because apparently my estrogen levels were low and the moment I cut out dairy and additionally started eating a fair bit of soy, my skin completely cleared and remains that way barring a bit of acne around the TOM ( which is also now regular for the first time in a decade )

Tiger Lilly 03-11-2012 11:21 PM

This is the reason I'm cutting down (majorly) on my dairy intake at the moment, to see if soy can help me out. Or if it's causing the issues.

I don't have any of the other symptoms of soy allergy, so I don't think it's the cause of my acne (which is more cystic based, but only in certain parts of my face, the rest of my skin has cleared up) St Ives do a good range of cruelty free scrubs and moisturisers as well. I'm not sure how vegan friendly all of their stuff is, but it's quite affordable.

azusapriss 03-15-2012 03:11 AM

Hi all,

One month on, I am taking 3 capsules of flaxseed oil, plus 2 of primrose oil every day. I have changed my skin care routine quite a bit too, and I am happy to say my skin is clearing up, I just have quite a few scars and marks to get rid of. I have literally seen my acne disappear and I think the massive change occurred when I started to use Hydrogen Perixode on the active acne, it seems that the oxygen kills the bacteria and allows the skin to heal. At first I used it all over my face, but now I use it only were I have active pimples. I am also currently trialing lavender oil (to eventually replace the HP, lavender is also antibacterial) and aloe vera gel as my moisturizer (so far so good, seems a lot better than any cream or oil I have tried).

@ Vincent, I am not sure if you are female or male, but flaxseed oil as far as I have read, seems to be more helpful to women than men. Anyways, we are all different, and the causes of our illnesses can differ greatly. Hope you give Hp a go, its been amazing for me, never ever thought that something so cheap and simple could do so much.

imagineaa 03-15-2012 07:11 AM

Truthfully, I would suggest seeing a doctor. Such an abrupt and severe change in your skin--seems concerning.

greenie25 08-23-2012 03:29 AM

This happened to me too. I stopped eating soy and wham. Gone. :) Now I eat a bit now and then but it's not a staple and it does me no harm! 
 


katemcfadden 03-08-2013 12:48 PM

Do you have any updates on this? I was just researching and was so thrilled to see this thread. Your situation sounds EXACTLY like mine! I went vegan about 3 months ago after being vegetarian for 3 years. My skin was never perfect but now it's the absolute worst it's ever been. People tell me to go on birth control but I'm adamant on not putting anything unnatural in my body.

I was so depressed today about my skin that I went to a neighborhood salon and met with an esthetician. He was wonderful & also concerned. After asking me questions about my skincare regimen, we got to diet & a lightbulb clicked when I said I recently went vegan. Once he started examining my skin, he concluded it was not cystic and it looks like my skin is purging - unfortunately on my face. He seems to think that my body initially didn't like the dairy, and now it has the perfect time to get it out of my system since its not busy breaking it down in digestion. Interesting, and makes sense! He seems to think we can get my skin beautiful again after a few peels... we will see! Just wanted to see if you determined a cause!

logic 03-08-2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by katemcfadden View Post

Once he started examining my skin, he concluded it was not cystic and it looks like my skin is purging - unfortunately on my face. He seems to think that my body initially didn't like the dairy, and now it has the perfect time to get it out of my system since its not busy breaking it down in digestion. Interesting, and makes sense!
This is just pseudo-science, a salon isn't a place you should seek health information. Visit a dermatologists.

Increased acne after going vegan can be caused by low levels of vitamin D, if the acne outbreak is occurring in the winter that is the first thing I'd test. Vitamin D is synthesized in your skin when the sun hits the oils in your skin, low levels of vitamin D and cause your body to produce more oils in the hopes of synthesizing more vitamin D which can promote acne in sensitive individuals. For $4 you can rule this out, just get a vitamin D supplement at Target, etc and see if the acne improves.

live2dream 03-09-2013 01:39 PM

Update:

 

My acne cleared up after maybe 9 months months of being vegan and using DeeVoo's vegan acne products from Etsy. I find now that the only time i break out with acne is during my TOM and after eating a lot of soy.

 

I had some blood tests done and found out I'm gluten intolerant and have leaky gut syndrome as well which has been causing me to get rashes and hives all over the past 4 months :(. (one thing to another, ugh)  So I've cut out gluten and now and going to try mostly raw - no gluten OR soy and see how that goes for my rashes. I'm told i have a highly sensitive immune system that attacks everything like an invader, but that's another story...


jezebeljones 03-09-2013 08:53 PM

Anyone using honey, or Burt's bees is not vegan. I'm sorry but bees are animals too and are being decimated by the farming of their honey. If we are all on a plant based diet don't you think we should protect the species that pollinates our food?

Diana 03-11-2013 03:27 AM

Someone further up mentioned soy. And if you have been eating lots of soy, try cutting it out completely and see if it is maybe the culprit.


katemcfadden 03-11-2013 06:33 AM

Thank you for your response on this! I actually visited a dermatologist & they wanted to put me on an oral medication, which I didn't want to do. The esthetician was for a second opinion. And as for the vitamin D, I take a D supplement daily, as well as visit a tanning bed once in awhile to keep my Ohio seasonal distress to a minimum. After bloodwork, I was not D-deficient. So that's not the culprit!


luvourmother 03-13-2013 08:49 AM

http://www.eatright.org/Media/content.aspx?id=6442474903#.UUCdGIy9KK0

This study was recently published. Links dairy consumption to acne as well as high GI foods.

penny79 03-13-2013 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by live2dream View Post
I've cut out gluten and now and going to try mostly raw

grain-free and raw veganism is what has helped my skin the most!


rc713 03-26-2013 11:20 AM

I am somewhat vegetarian, no dairy but an occasional egg. I have found that vitamin b12 supplements make me break out like crazy. Google it....you will fine a bunch of stuff connecting b12 to acne. I am new to all of this, does anyone know if there is a natural way to get b12 from a vegan diet?


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