Originally Posted by Ben Rosenblum
Maybe it's okay to just be a "niche market" or whatever, just a more compassionate one
First, while it's possible that vegans have created a "niche market" in the short-term, if vegans continue to promote veganism and expand the number of vegan consumers, there will likely be a "tipping point" where we're no longer a niche market and instead we're the mainstream
Second, the focus is wrong. The author is taking one type of conscientious consumer (the person who purchases vegan items in order to expand the market for vegan items and to decrease the market for nonvegan items) and wrongly applying that ideology to all vegans. Veganism is not a boycott. I don't know how many times I have to say it, but anyone who actually knows what a boycott is will agree that veganism is not one. Sure, people can choose to abstain from animal products for a variety of reasons and a boycott that they call "veganism" might be one, but those people are ultimately confused about what veganism is. For example, I'm guessing that you don't consume puppy placentas, your neighbor's fingernails, or the flesh of AIDS victims. Would you call your abstinence of consuming those items a "boycott"? No, it doesn't make sense.
You just don't think of those things as food. They are not food. They are something else. THAT is what veganism is.Animals are not food sources. Animals are not clothing sources. Animals are not science tools. THAT is what veganism is.
But the thing that still gets me is from that first article saying the overall meat consumption has increased and that the supply and demand model of economics doesn't really work out, so that decreasing demand won't actually change the amount that is supplied. It ties my head in knots. Maybe this marxist theory is just full of crap
The worldwide consumption of animal products has increased, that is true. But the per capita consumption of animal products in places where veganism is promoted has generally decreased
(or has become less accepted).
"Vegetarianism in the United States has been slowly creeping up in numbers over the past decade."
"During the twenty-five years [between 1980 and 2004], the downward trend both in beef production and real retail beef prices suggests a gradually declining demand for beef"http://pods.dasnr.okstate.edu/docush...GEC-603web.pdf
"Demand for turkey may have slipped slightly in the past decade"http://pods.dasnr.okstate.edu/docush...GEC-603web.pdf
“2008 per capita [meat] consumption stands to be at the lowest point in seven years”
“The [poultry] industry has never cut production to this degree before, but demand for chicken has never contracted to this degree either,”
"Fishermen are hurting and quitting the business"
"demand for dairy products is stalling amid a global economic slowdown and credit crisis, even as supplies have increased. The result is a glut of milk — and its assorted byproducts, like milk powder, butter and whey proteins — that has led to a precipitous drop in prices."
"[Americans] have become less accepting of medical testing on animals, and the use of animal fur for clothing"
"A quarter of Americans say animals deserve the same rights as humans, while almost all of the rest agree that animals should be given some protection from harm and exploitation."
"38% of Americans express support for the idea of banning horse and dog racing altogether"
"Only with respect to using animal fur in clothing and medical testing on animals are older Americans more tolerant than younger Americans."
* “Meat reducers,” “semi-vegetarians,” vegetarians, and vegans are growing segments of consumers.
* The USDA estimates show declines in red meat consumption.
* One in four U.S. adults (25%) is a “moderate” meat consumer who currently consumes meat with “about half” of his or her meals.
* Roughly one in eight adults (13%) is a “semi-vegetarian” who currently eats meat with fewer than half of his or her meals.
* Older consumers are more likely to be reducing meat as a component of moving toward a healthier diet.
* Consumers are becoming increasingly conscious of ethical issues and skeptical of food safety.
"Increasing numbers of students are asking to opt out of the science class ritual of dissecting frogs or fetal pigs, branding the practice cruel and insisting they can learn as much from computer simulations."http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/06/us...g-animals.html
"The [accidental extreme heat caused] deaths will hurt cattle producers who were already struggling with high feed costs and reduced demand for meat and animal hides"
“Egg consumption has declined every year since 2006, according to the USDA.”