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#1 Old 10-21-2009, 03:50 PM
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So the more I learn about palm oil, the less I want to eat Earth Balance. Anyone know of a vegan butter/margarine that does not contain palm?
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From this thread about palm oil:



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From Earth Balance in response to Palm Oil Question:



100% of the palm oil used in Earth Balance originates in peninsular Malaysia and not Eastern Malaysia (i.e. Sarawak and Sabah on the Island of Borneo), the main home for orangutans. As the orangutan.com website points out, slash and burn clearing methods are illegal. We purchase our oil exclusively from reputable, law-abiding plantations which are registered with the Malaysian

government.



Palm oil and soybean oil are the major edible oils in the world, together they account for over 50% of all oil consumed worldwide. The alternative to palm oil in the world markets is hydrogenated soybean oil. If we reduce the world supply of palm, the markets will compensate by growing more soybeans.



Soybean cultivation is wasteful of natural resources. Palm plantations require only a fraction of the acreage to produce the same quantity of oil as soybean farms. An acre of palm trees will produce roughly 8,000-9,000 kgs of oil per year while an acre of soybeans produces roughly 1,000 kgs of oil

per year. Brazil is now the world’s largest and fastest growing producer of soybeans. For every acre of Malaysian palm oil converted back to jungle, several acres of Brazilian or Argentinean forest must be converted to farmland.



It is for these reason that we feel palm oil should be part of an environmentally friendly food supply chain. The following site has more information about the cultivation of palm oil in Malaysia.

http://www.mpopc.org.my/index1.htm.


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I'd still be skeptical of that, they're still clearing rainforest, still destroying the habitats of endangered species.



In Australia we have a pretty good brand called Nuttelex, it comes in canola and olive and other varieties. There are mainstream brands of margarine that are based on olive or canola oil, but check for milk products
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Thanks for the info rabid_child!
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From this thread about palm oil:





Thanks for the info, I have a friend who cannot eat palm oil for health reasons, anyone know a vegan butter with out it?
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I buy Fleischmann's unsalted margarine that is OU Parve. It it not certified vegan, but uses no animal ingredients and has no Palm oil.
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I buy Fleischmann's unsalted margarine that is OU Parve. It it not certified vegan, but uses no animal ingredients and has no Palm oil.

What are the ingredients?

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Liquid soybean oil, water, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, vegetable mono and diglycerides and soy lecithin, potassium sorbate, and calcium disodium EDTA, phosphoric acid, natural and artificial flavor, vitamin A palmitate, colored with beta carotene, vitamin D3.



BUT I just looked up vitamin A palmitate and it apparently comes from palm oil. Sorry guys.
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D3 is animal derived, unfortunately.

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Poo.
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and EDTA is cytotoxic and genotoxic, and it has trans fats.

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Nucoa, in the tubs, not cubes. I actually don't know what type of oil it is, I just like that it's cheaper - WAY cheaper and vegan. (The cubes are vegan too - but have a trace of transfat)
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I think I'll trust the claim given by Earth Balance until further research.There are just as many animals killed in the farming of our veggies than palm oil.
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There's a bit of a debate about whether or not there can be vegan D3. Tropicana claimed their vegan D3 was "synthetic" a couple of years ago, some vegan vitamin makers claim to have vegan D3 as well, but at least one seems to use some animal parts in the process:

www.gardenoflife.com/D3



Vit A Palmitate, fwiw can also come from a variety of sources, including fish.

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I get pure soya marg. The brand is called 'pure' and I can get it in Asda (UK) or from the local health food shop.
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Pure has palm oil in it, as well: http://www.puredairyfree.co.uk/soya.php

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Oh - didn't know that and now it'll bug me. Hardly ever use it to be honest but the kids put it on their toast
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I've just stopped using it all together. I am a total margarine/butter-whatever spread lover and am finding that with time you learn to enjoy foods without it and cut calories. Just a thought
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You can make your own margarine using this recipe:



1 cup sunflower oil

1 tsp liquid lecithin

1 cup cold water



Pour a little of the water into a blender, then add oil and lecithin. Blend briefly on high speed while adding the rest of the water. Store in refrigerator and use within 2-3 weeks. Variation: for a very rich cream substitute, add 1 tbsp maple syrup and 2 tsp carob powder.
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Liquid soybean oil, water, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, vegetable mono and diglycerides and soy lecithin, potassium sorbate, and calcium disodium EDTA, phosphoric acid, natural and artificial flavor, vitamin A palmitate, colored with beta carotene, vitamin D3.



BUT I just looked up vitamin A palmitate and it apparently comes from palm oil. Sorry guys.



In addition to the D3, also you don't know what the "natural" flavor is.
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Thanks Mr Falafel.



Do you get liquid lechithin in healthfood shops?



Mine have already started stocking nutritional yeast just for me for homemade 'cheese'. I'm going tonight so will have a look!



Sounds nice and easy.



I can happily do without marg personally but the kids are probably not ready for that level of health!
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You can make your own margarine using this recipe:



1 cup sunflower oil

1 tsp liquid lecithin

1 cup cold water



Pour a little of the water into a blender, then add oil and lecithin. Blend briefly on high speed while adding the rest of the water. Store in refrigerator and use within 2-3 weeks. Variation: for a very rich cream substitute, add 1 tbsp maple syrup and 2 tsp carob powder.



Thanks for this it will come in handy when baking I don't suppose you know how to convert us cups to uk do you? I always have trouble
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You can make your own margarine using this recipe:



1 cup sunflower oil

1 tsp liquid lecithin

1 cup cold water



Pour a little of the water into a blender, then add oil and lecithin. Blend briefly on high speed while adding the rest of the water. Store in refrigerator and use within 2-3 weeks. Variation: for a very rich cream substitute, add 1 tbsp maple syrup and 2 tsp carob powder.



dang...your like a living cookbook....lol.
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Thanks Mr Falafel.



Do you get liquid lechithin in healthfood shops?



Mine have already started stocking nutritional yeast just for me for homemade 'cheese'. I'm going tonight so will have a look!



Sounds nice and easy.



I can happily do without marg personally but the kids are probably not ready for that level of health!



Not sure what you can get locally. Probably easiest to get on-line if that's something your family may enjoy. I'd probably add some salt and some other things to zing it up a bit.
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Thanks for this it will come in handy when baking I don't suppose you know how to convert us cups to uk do you? I always have trouble



Just use a standard UK tea cup as a US 'cup' measure. Its not the actual measurement that is the issue, its the ratios that are important here. Just use a small cup and measure the same amount of water and sunflower oil and add a dash of lecithin, blend and taste, adjust, taste, adjust etc. With experimentation you'll probably come up with something unique and better than the original recipe.
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Just use a standard UK tea cup as a US 'cup' measure. Its not the actual measurement that is the issue, its the ratios that are important here. Just use a small cup and measure the same amount of water and sunflower oil and add a dash of lecithin, blend and taste, adjust, taste, adjust etc. With experimentation you'll probably come up with something unique and better than the original recipe.



Awesome, thanks
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You can make your own margarine using this recipe:



1 cup sunflower oil

1 tsp liquid lecithin

1 cup cold water



Pour a little of the water into a blender, then add oil and lecithin. Blend briefly on high speed while adding the rest of the water. Store in refrigerator and use within 2-3 weeks. Variation: for a very rich cream substitute, add 1 tbsp maple syrup and 2 tsp carob powder.



Amazing! I still have a huge tub of earth balance But I'm going to find the liquid lecithin and give it a try. How much does this recipe make...it is 2 cups?

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Amazing! I still have a huge tub of earth balance But I'm going to find the liquid lecithin and give it a try. How much does this recipe make...it is 2 cups?



Looks like it makes 2 cups and 1 tsp of margarine But like I said before, I would recommend you play around with the recipe and add some other things for taste, like salt, for one.
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You can make your own margarine using this recipe:



1 cup sunflower oil

1 tsp liquid lecithin

1 cup cold water



Pour a little of the water into a blender, then add oil and lecithin. Blend briefly on high speed while adding the rest of the water. Store in refrigerator and use within 2-3 weeks. Variation: for a very rich cream substitute, add 1 tbsp maple syrup and 2 tsp carob powder.

 

Despite being very sceptical how lecithin could transform water into a more solid form, I gave it a try and it DID NOT work.

 

Other recipes work with much less water and end up with cream style spreads. Tests to get it more firm by placing it in the fridge lead to speration of the ingredients.

 

I would love to get your advice or a photo of your end product.

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I'm using vegan Becel but just learned today that they are owned by Unilever who test some of their products on animals (they are forced by law and are looking for alternatives but until then, animals will suffer). 

So I found this website explaining vegan butter in details to follow on MrFalafel recipe. Lecithin is pretty cheap I think once my Becel is finished I'll make my own! so easy.


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