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#1 Old 03-29-2017, 09:10 AM
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Unhappy on the brink of giving up- seeking advice

This is kind of desperate, but I am desperate, so here goes.

I am in full support of this movement and really want to be a part of it. Unfortunately I feel my digestive system/ health is prohibiting me from doing so and I was just wondering if anyone had any first hand experience with this kind of problem.

The abdominal pain that plant protein seems to cause me at the quantity I choose to eat (due to exercise regime)/ the lack of sleep and poor performance that follows has almost driven me to give up.

I have spoken to professionals and experimented with more combinations of foods/ medications/ home remedies than I can count. Fermented vegetables, food combinations, food timing, raw apple cider vinegar, digestive enzymes, minimizing ingredients, maximising ingredients, restricting fibre, increasing fibre, every protein isolate I can think of, no protein powder at all (just consuming larger amounts of the source ingredients like soy milk), exercise timing, common sense adjustments… The fact is, nothing has worked. I cannot face that pain every day and lead a life of any real quality.

This stems from some as of yet undiagnosed intolerance I have to plant food in general (closest we’ve got thus far is IBS, and I think possibly even some kind of mild allergy, but it could well be more serious because as I said none of the mainstream advice has worked, enzymes gave temporary relief of symptoms but body became tolerant eventually plus were very, very expensive).

Eating it at the quantities I would need to eat to repair from the exercise I do does not agree with me. The pain peaks at around 2am, keeping me awake for hours, which has a very real carryover to my performance the next day.

The stool it produces is sometimes constipation, sometimes diarrhoea, mostly both.

It gives me large amounts of bad smelling gas.

I feel very weak and nauseas while on this type of diet.

I can digest protein from poultry perfectly with no issue.

I am a 23 year old student. My free time is diminishing, full time employment is calling me and my family is too poor for me to able to focus on fixing this problem indefinitely. I do not have the money to keep trialling products and prescriptions. I am going to have to support myself financially soon and really starting to feel the pressure.

Really this is just a plea for someone to chime in who can in any way identify with this as of yet not-properly-diagnosed condition, to save me years of possible regret/ eating animal products.

I don’t plan to give up on this forever. When I’m financially stable I can look into it again with all my efforts, its just if I can cut out that waiting period I will, which is why I’m interested to hear of similar experiences/ possible solutions.

Many thanks,

J
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#2 Old 03-29-2017, 05:46 PM
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I have not had these kinds of digestive issues (at least as a vegan), so I can't share my own experience. But I am wondering, what was a typical day of food like when you were an omni? Did you not eat any fruits, vegetables, grains, beans, nuts, etc along with animal products? If you did, which ones? For example, as an omni, did you eat spaghetti? Oatmeal? Whole wheat toasts? Cashew nuts?

If you are an athlete of some sort, you might also find more help at Vegan Health And Fitness forum. Lots of successful vegan athletes there, and I am sure more than one of them has struggled with IBS issues.

Often those new to a plant based diet do struggle with gas, bloating, cramping for a while as their bodies adjust to a new way of eating. You might be one who needs to take small steps and make small changes over a long period of time instead of diving in head first.

I had to put on a lot of weight to get healthier some time ago, and found that it was easier when I could do stuff like nuts, peanut/nut butters, smoothies, tofu pudding, that sort of thing where quantity didn't have to be so huge. I hated the feeling of fullness so I would eat lots of small meals spaced throughout the day instead of three big ones. I still eat four small meals a day. Maybe you have already tried this, IDK. Just throwing out some ideas.

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#3 Old 03-29-2017, 09:31 PM
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I agree with the 4 or 5 small meals a day.

I suppose you have tried an elimination diet - cutting out one food group at a time to see if things improve without it - like nightshades or wheat or nuts?

Have you had your copper levels checked ?

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#4 Old 03-30-2017, 01:31 AM
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Your symptoms may suggest coeliac disease/gluten intolerance, but it's tricky to diagnose, and healing may require few months of completely gluten-free diet. It often comes with milk intolerance also.

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#5 Old 03-30-2017, 07:15 AM
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What is your target protein intake?
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