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#1 Old 01-06-2011, 05:24 AM
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According to PETA they don't test on animals but I have a friend who insists that they do test on animals at various stages of development, they just don't test the final product on animals.

If PETA says they don't test on animals on their website, can I trust this?
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Personally I use BUAV.org
They only approve companies who dont test the ingrediants AND the final product on animals. Not all companies are vegan though, some use Beeswax etc. But they label as needed.

A company can technically claim 'not tested on animals' if the final product wasnt tested even if the parts that go into making it were, thats how there are so many seemingly cruelty free companies out there. Also dont fall for the similar 'we are against animal testing', because they can claim this and still test. Hope that makes sence
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Personally I use BUAV.org
They only approve companies who dont test the ingrediants AND the final product on animals. Not all companies are vegan though, some use Beeswax etc. But they label as needed.

A company can technically claim 'not tested on animals' if the final product wasnt tested even if the parts that go into making it were, thats how there are so many seemingly cruelty free companies out there. Also dont fall for the similar 'we are against animal testing', because they can claim this and still test. Hope that makes sence

Yes, I see what you're saying.

Bath & Body Works is a US retailer and BUAV.org is a UK-based organization, so I doubt they'd show up on their site either way. Thanks anyway though.
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They do both USA and UK companies
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I stopped using their products after reading that fishy label about "finished products not tested on animals"....and as others mentioned, no leaping bunny logo.

I like Kiss My Face, Lush, and Alba Organics skin stuff better anyways. From what I remember of B&BW their products were a bit overpowering in the scent department, and not the greatest on sensitive skin.

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I usually try to go by leapingbunny.org. (They seem to use the same logo as BUAV.org, does anyone know if they're affiliated?)
Bath & Body Works isn't listed with Leaping Bunny, so I assume their "cruelty free" statement applies only to finished products.

http://www.gocrueltyfree.org/

"In 1996 an international coalition of animal protection groups from Europe and North America, including the British Union for the Abolition of Vivisection (BUAV) launched the world's only internationally recognised scheme that enables consumers to easily identify and purchase cruelty free products." That's what the leaping bunny logo is.

That website I've linked has American companies on it as well.

EDIT: I've looked for Bath & Body Works and they don't appear to be on there.
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Hey, The Body Shop is on there! I don't like a lot of their stuff (non vegan, have a lot of additives I won't used, strong, unnatural scents etc) but it's good to know that they are a good alternative to places like Victoria's Secret and B and B Works for others who like those types of products.

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Hey, The Body Shop is on there! I don't like a lot of their stuff (non vegan, have a lot of additives I won't used, strong, unnatural scents etc) but it's good to know that they are a good alternative to places like Victoria's Secret and B and B Works for others who like those types of products.

The Body Shop is a bit of a grey area now. Obviously when it was set up it was completely anti-animal testing and it still is. None of their products or ingredients are tested on animals. However, the Body Shop is now owned by L'Oreal and I don't think I need to say anything about their level of animal testing .
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Damn! It was the first company that came up on the linked site. How irritating!

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Huh.. according to the Body Shop's wikipedia page L'Oreal says that it hasn't tested its products on animals since 1989. I call BS on that one. I'm pretty damn sure that they still at least test the ingredients... Or at least their suppliers test...
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I was just confused since PETA said B&BW was "kosher". I want it to be kosher...I like their products.

Used to like Garnier too, until I heard that they tested their products on animals. I now use my Whole Foods house brand shower gel to wash my hair. Soap is soap.
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Have any of you heard of ULTA products for bath My sister got me the last two Christmas 08 and 09 bath soaps and it says on the bottle on big bold letters they don't test on animals. I am not sure if they are on these lists but its on their bottles.
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Have any of you heard of ULTA products for bath My sister got me the last two Christmas 08 and 09 bath soaps and it says on the bottle on big bold letters they don't test on animals. I am not sure if they are on these lists but its on their bottles.

Ulta FTW! I love all their products, I've been using a big bottle of their buttercream cupcake soap for so long I can't even remember when I bought it!
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GoCrueltyFree.org and LeapingBunny.org are indeed afiliated. As Annia said, the BUAV in UK and a coalition of animal protection groups in Europe and USA together launched the Humane Cosmetics Standard and Humane Household Products Standard which are symbolised by the Leaping Bunny mark. It is the only internationally recognised certification for brands who are committed to ending animal testing thoughout their supply chain. Unlike many cruelty free 'lists', it requires an independent audit to confirm compliance with the standards.

www.LeapingBunny.org lists US brands and www.GoCrueltyFree.org lists all worldwide brands.

Bath & Body Works are not certified, however The Body Shop are. Despite being owned by L'Oreal, The Body Shop still manufacture their products independently and in accordance with the Humane Cosmetics Standard. So while they remain committed to selling cruelty free products they will be certified.

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Bath & Body Works are not certified, however The Body Shop are. Despite being owned by L'Oreal, The Body Shop still manufacture their products independently and in accordance with the Humane Cosmetics Standard. So while they remain committed to selling cruelty free products they will be certified.

This information is very misleading. This certification is only reliable if the consumer is only looking for products that have not been tested on animals. But if the consumer is looking for products that are ACTUALLY cruelty-free, they need to purchase from a vegan company and not The Body Shop. There are animal-derived ingredients used in many of the Body Shop's products and therefore they are NOT a cruelty-free or humane company no matter what your certification is trying to imply.

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The Body Shop has lanolin listed right on its lists of ingredients for their hand creams! Props for listing everything, not seriously...

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The body shop have always been the biggest bunch of fakers from day one. They should just shorten their name to "The BS"

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