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#1 Old 11-02-2005, 03:16 AM
 
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BENTONVILLE, Ark. (AP) - It looked like a crime scene, but no charges will be filed after Wayne Goldsberry killed a buck with his bare hands in his daughter's bedroom. The engagement lasted an exhausting 40 minutes, but Goldsberry finally subdued the five-point whitetail deer that crashed through a bedroom window at his daughter's home Friday.



When it was over, blood splattered the walls and the deer lay on the bedroom floor, its neck broken.



Goldsberry was at his daughter's home when he heard glass breaking. He went back to check on the noise and found the deer.



``I was standing about like this peeking around the corner when the deer came out of the bedroom,'' said Goldsberry, demonstrating while peering around his kitchen wall. The deer ran down the hall and into the master bedroom - ``jumping back and forth across the bed.''



``I could tell he was really tearing up the place back there,'' Goldsberry said.



Goldsberry entered the bedroom to confront the deer and, after a brief struggle, emerged to tell his wife to call police. After returning to the bedroom, the fight continued. Goldsberry finally was able to grip the animal and twist its neck, killing it.



``He was trying to get up a corner wall and I just came in behind him and grabbed him by the horns and just started pushing down,'' said Goldsberry.



Goldsberry, sore from the struggle, dragged the dead animal out of the house.



Benton County Sheriff Keith Ferguson said that when he arrived he found the deer dead in the front yard. Goldsberry intended to have the deer processed for its meat.



On Monday in Pine Bluff, the principal of Coleman Elementary School rid his building of a deer by opening a door. Students were preparing for dismissal Monday when a deer crashed through a window and bounded through a hallway.



The buck floundered on the school's slick floor for about three minutes exiting via a door along the side of a hallway. Principal Bill Tietz said the deer was slightly injured from the glass and lost an antler. Tietz says the animal leapt a six-foot fence after leaving the school.



This is just so ****ed up to me. He should've just called animal control or someone similar to dart the animal and then release it.
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#2 Old 11-02-2005, 03:24 AM
 
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What a prick. It's not like the deer was actually threatening them.
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#3 Old 11-02-2005, 07:32 AM
 
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Why didn't he just chase it out of the house? What an idiot, a cruel idiot.
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OMG! When I read the headline, I assumed the deer had injured or was threatening the daughter. But it sounds like it was confused and just wanted to get out. That IS ****ed up.
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It's typical of humanity these days. Man sees a wild animal in the house, his first instinct is to kill it. Heaven forbid he should do anything else to get rid of it.



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#6 Old 11-02-2005, 09:36 AM
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o.k. killing it was necessary because...?

I know the guy was talking about it tearing up the bedroom, but blood is much, much harder to get out of the walls, carpet, etc....



Better alternatives:

1. Calling Animal Control, and closing the bedroom door until they arrive

2. Chase the deer out the front or back door.
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Disturbing.
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o.k. killing it was necessary because...?

I know the guy was talking about it tearing up the bedroom, but blood is much, much harder to get out of the walls, carpet, etc....



I assume it was bleeding from jumping through the window.



He probably didn't have safety glass, and he sure didn't have a sheet of sugar like in the movies. Real glass cuts quite nicely.
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I assume it was bleeding from jumping through the window.



He probably didn't have safety glass, and he sure didn't have a sheet of sugar like in the movies. Real glass cuts quite nicely.



gah! You're right. I hadn't thought of that. My brain is pretty fuzzy this morning due to cold medication taken last night.
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That is absolutely disgusting.
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Hmmm, now he wants to process it for it's meat...maybe he had an ulterior motive for not calling in some help. Can't say I'm sorry he's sore.

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It's typical of humanity these days. Man sees a wild animal in the house, his first instinct is to kill it. Heaven forbid he should do anything else to get rid of it.



Bah.



Without knowing all of the details, we still need to consider that this was a large animal, with at least 10 antler points, scared and flailing inside a home. Couldn't the guy and/or his family have been in danger?
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Hmmm I wonder if these bucks see their reflection in glass and attack the "other buck" and go through the window.



Anyway, why the guy didnt just close the bedroom door is beyond me. Of course the police would probably shoot the deer anyway. Im not sure if anyone would just tranquilize the deer. Does animal control tranquilize ?





Of course if humans were "designed to kill" it probably wouldn't have been such an ordeal of 40 minutes of wrestling.
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I guess we can't really say what the guy should have done because none of us were in the room with him. A deer can be a dangerous animal, but it seems like it would have been safer to try to contain it or get it out of the house somehow than to grapple with it.
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Seems like there has been a few dear attacks recently:



http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=1258792



Nov. 1, 2005

A rash of attacks by male deer has prompted California wildlife officials to warn people to try and keep their distance from the wild animals.



The attacks, two against people and three against neighborhood pets, are most likely fluke incidents, officials say. However, the gorings could also be a sign that as residential areas expand, wild deer are becoming more accustomed to people and less fearful of them.



"What happens is these animals get more comfortable around people and people start to think of them like Bambi and often don't realize they can be dangerous," said Steve Martarano of the California Department of Fish and Game.



The male deer that attacked Ron Dudek, 73, on Sept. 25 as he was picking tomatoes in his garden was likely caught by surprise, says Martarano. The 6-foot-tall buck charged out of a patch of shrubbery and gored Dudek in the face before running off. Dudek was rushed to the hospital where he received 220 stitches for the wounds. Three weeks later he died from a pulmonary blood clot resulting from the encounter.



In another attack further north in the state, a couple in Covelo were attacked while watering a friend's vegetable garden. Martarano says the woman was gored in the arm after the animal had pinned the man to the ground with its antlers. When the woman tried to scare off the animal with a piece of plywood, she was gored in the arm. The man was shaken, but not hurt.



And in Orinda, male deer have attacked neighborhood dogs, killing one and seriously wounding another.



"We've never had any problems with our many local deer before," said Dee Pearce, whose 10-year-old dog Kermit, an afghan-golden mix, was killed by a buck that gored the dog in the head. "This seems to be an odd year around here."



Pearce says her dog did not bark before or during the encounter with the deer. And three hours after the deer gored her dog, it gored another dog, an elderly black Labrador retriever that lives across the street from Pearce. That dog survived. Later, the buck faced off with a third dog in the neighborhood, a Jack Russell terrier.



"I saw the buck put its head down like he was about to attack him," said Louis Pimentel, owner of the terrier, Willie. "So I put my camera down and took my dog inside."



Crowded and Dangerous?



Wildlife biologists say all of the attacks are unusual, but could also be a sign that deer populations are getting crowded and too accustomed to human neighbors and their pets.



"I've never heard of a deer seeking out and attacking dogs," said Todd Smith, editor-in-chief of Outdoor Life. "Most deer are deathly afraid of dogs and they're afraid of people."



Smith points out that male deer act unusually aggressive this time of year since the animals are entering what is known as the rut. This is when bucks are completely focused on breeding and wander for weeks looking for females, often not eating.



"They're fighting for dominance among the females, they're not eating a lot. They become increasingly aggressive," he said.



It could be that the rut season, combined with increasingly cramped territory could be behind the unusual attacks. Pearce says she has noticed more deer this year in her neighborhood, which she describes as a "woodsy suburb."



"This year the deer are thriving," she said. "We have at least four bucks in our immediate area as well as many doe and yearlings. There is lots of competition in a small area."



Deer herds throughout the United States have increased exponentially in recent decades, although around 1900, deer had been nearly wiped out. Restrictions on hunting and programs for trapping and relocating deer helped the population rebound beginning in the 1920s. Meanwhile, people have been building homes in areas that may have once been deer habitat.



"We have more white-tailed deer now than we have ever had in the history of the country," said Smith. "So it's not surprising we're having more encounters. When deer and people meet, stuff's going to happen."
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are most of you all stupid enough to belive that a five point buck inside your house is not a harzard ? he did what was necessary to protect his property and his family.
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However, I think running OUT of the house and waiting for animal control to get there would be safer than fighting the deer with no weapons? Or is it just me?
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The chasing the deer out the front door comment made me laugh. Like it's the same thing as a neighborhood cat or something. Heh.
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are most of you all stupid enough to belive that a five point buck inside your house is not a harzard ? he did what was necessary to protect his property and his family.

First of all the only thing any of us can do is guess what exactly the options were or what kind of danger they were in. Having said that, based on what we do know I think that if he did feel that his family was in danger the best thing to do would be to shut the deer inside the room and call animal control, rather than try to fight it himself.



As for property? That's irrelevant as far as I am concerned. There is no property anywhere in my home that would make me think it's worth it to kill an animal.



And finally, calling people stupid isn't really necessary.
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"are most of you all stupid enough to belive that a five point buck inside your house is not a harzard ? he did what was necessary to protect his property and his family."

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No we all aren't "stupid enough". We are saying our opinions. Are you rude enough to label everyone as "stupid" as a first resort ? I think the art of discussion is going down the tubes.



I believe the article said he closed the bedroom door (with the deer inside) and told his wife to call the police and then went back in the bedroom to apparently have a wrestling match with the deer. I think that was an irresponsible thing to do if he was considering the safety of himself and family. Then again I just read what was written.
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It's typical of humanity these days. Man sees a wild animal in the house, his first instinct is to kill it. Heaven forbid he should do anything else to get rid of it.

The fact that the next generation is being sired by people like this doesn't bode well for the planet.
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A frightened large animal should be considered a danger to human beings.
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Doors on the inside of a house aren't all that strong.
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Goldsberry entered the bedroom to confront the deer

This sentence is sufficient.

"and I stand

upon a mountain

made of weak and useless men"

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He should have waited until the deer busted down the door?
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He should have waited until the deer busted down the door?



Nope.

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A frightened large animal should be considered a danger to human beings.

I know some people who may be dangerous, but I don't think they should be killed because they "may" hurt somebody. I don't believe in causing death to prevent possible death/injury. That just doesn't make sense to me.
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See, it's not the killing the deer part that bothers me, it's the 40 minute wrestling match.

Yes, the deer could have been a danger. Yes, the problem should have been dealt with.

But 40 minutes of wrestling a deer stinks of ego to me. If he felt that the deer had to die, wouldn't a clean shot to the head have been faster, safer and more humane?
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If he had something to shoot with.
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Where are all the "unless he did it with his bare hands" types?
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