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A global shift towards a vegan diet is vital to save the world from hunger, fuel poverty and the worst impacts of climate change, a UN report said today.



As the global population surges towards a predicted 9.1 billion people by 2050, western tastes for diets rich in meat and dairy products are unsustainable, says the report from United Nations Environment Programme's (UNEP) international panel of sustainable resource management.



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Too bad nobody ever listens to the United Nations...
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Too bad nobody ever listens to the United Nations...



...and we ignore to our own peril.
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In the "new posts" view, the thread title shows up as "United Nations urges global move to meat".



I was very confused for a minute there.

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In the "new posts" view, the thread title shows up as "United Nations urges global move to meat".



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That would be madness.
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Woo Hoo! I may not be vegan (yet), but this still makes me happy! It may not reach a lot of people, but it's still spreading veganism on a global scale, yeah?
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It'd be interesting if anything comes of it..
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What's interesting about this is that omnis constantly seem to accuse veg*ns of being elitists who have adopted a "privileged" diet that other cultures could not possibly adopt (and therefore Western omnis use that as reason to not adopt veg*nism themselves, in some kind of "solidarity" with the rest of the world). This kind of puts the lie to that.

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What's interesting about this is that omnis constantly seem to accuse veg*ns of being elitists who have adopted a "privileged" diet that other cultures could not possibly adopt (and therefore Western omnis use that as reason to not adopt veg*nism themselves, in some kind of "solidarity" with the rest of the world). This kind of puts the lie to that.

Classic!



Seen that one a lot. Usualy ends up in something about how Eskimos would have problems if they didnt eat meat as they can't grow vegetables; ERGO.. It is necessary for those with vegetables in abundance to eat half a cow a day otherwise they'd starve?
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United Nations urges global move to meat and dairy-free diet:



A perfectly save move as a free market economy will ensure it never happens.



The free market ensures that food will always go to the highest bidder.



It is also ensures that the cows of the rich will always be able to outbid the children of the poor.



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I think I would prefer the population didn't reach such levels in the first place, really.
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I think I would prefer the population didn't reach such levels in the first place, really.

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One bizzarre fact is that it is the exact same thing, poverty, which drives those least able to feed a growing population into population growth.



Kinda like starve people and they spawn kiddies like crazy to create their own work forces and old age pension plans. Give people food and a pension plan and they have fewer kiddies so as they can get a new TV?
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I don't think you can really give them that. The entire structure of their environment must change to have any lasting effect.
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I don't think you can really give them that. The entire structure of their environment must change to have any lasting effect.

Indeed matey ...



Changing an environment costs money though and therein lies the poverty trap again?



Good example of what can be done to an environment, given cash, is what Western funded Zionists did with desert stolen from the Palestianians in the Middle East.



Poverty is the ultimate violence according to Gandhi btw.
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I just ran across that article and came here to post it. You beat me, Yamato.



I'm actually amazed that they are promoting a vegan diet. The meat/dairy industry must not be in their pockets yet. I guarantee the industries are holding meetings right now on how to "correct" this problem (not the world going to hell problem, the UN promoting vegan diets problem).
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I'm actually amazed that they are promoting a vegan diet. The meat/dairy industry must not be in their pockets yet. I guarantee the industries are holding meetings right now on how to "correct" this problem (not the world going to hell problem, the UN promoting vegan diets problem).

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The arable farming industry should not be ruled out as BIG opposition to vegetarianism either.



The meat and dairy industries, by virtue of needing vast amounts or arable crop to process inneficiently via animals, are a very significant part of the arable industries income.



The ultimate beneficiary, and thus the ultimate opposition, is the land owners, mind. They need as much land to be used as possible and for that land to fetch the highest possible prices.



Efficient land use is their greatest enemy.
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This is a big deal.

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Whether or not the world listens, whether or not these problems are solved, if this causes even one person to go vegan, then it has still made a difference. I applaud the UN for coming out and saying this.
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In the "new posts" view, the thread title shows up as "United Nations urges global move to meat".



I was very confused for a minute there.



Same here.



It will be very interesting to see how the world responds to this, especially communities in the Third World. We may see some political leaders say that a plant-based meat and dairy free diet is not practical and it's easier to raise cows than to plant food crops in some parts of the world, such as drought-stricken areas of Africa (or in refugee camps there and elsewhere, where everyone is living in tents and tin shacks and depending on the largesse of relief organizations). And yes, First World omnis will echo this argument and insist that this status quo can never be changed. How do you plant corn, they will say, when the soil won't allow it? Better to send people cows than seeds, they will say.

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This is good news. Its good to see that some people with global visibility are trying to change things.
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I hate the UN, but hey, even stopped clocks are right twice a day.
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This really made my day... I promptly posted the article to my facebook.



Even if only a handful of people change because of this, it will be a victory.
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I hate the UN, but hey, even stopped clocks are right twice a day.



Why do you hate the UN Josiedaisy?
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