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#1 Old 07-20-2003, 05:28 PM
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GRowing up in the UK I knew them as chick peas. My dad moved to the US and on visiting him I knew them as Garbanzo Beans. Recent posting here imply they are now known as chick peas in the US. Is this true? When did this happen? What was I doing at the time?
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garbanzo beans and chickpeas are in fact different legumes, though they are similar enough they can be used interchangably. garbanzo beans are larger and hail from the meditteranian region, and chickpeas are smaller and hail from the middle east.
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I thought that they were the same...
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#4 Old 07-20-2003, 07:11 PM
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they certainly taste the same to me.... they're both equally delicious.
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They are different or the same, depending.



Marketers of one other the other often label them as one or the other with the other in parenthesis.



They are both the same species.



In the US both words are used interchangeably for either bean. I suppose in Italy they may only recognize a handful of related cultivars as being a true garbanzo.



There are literally 100's of thousands of cultivars of Cicer arietinum. From tiny quick cooking ones (15 minutes without soaking first) to gigantic long-cooking ones (1.5 to 2.5 hours, the only ones sold is US supermarkets), to every size in-between and cooking time in between. There are also purple ones, orange ones, black ones, brown ones, mottled ones, near-white ones, green-ripe ones, and kinds that will pop like popcorn.
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I never knew there was a difference either. I'm from the US and I usually call them garbonzo beans, mostly because I love the word...
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Whoa. I neve knew there was a difference, nor such a variety of the little things! All the cans I've seen just are labeled "Garbanzos" the "Chickpeas" or "Chi-Chi Beans" in parentheses. Hmm.



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#8 Old 07-21-2003, 02:55 PM
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Interesting stuff, thanks to everyone for their replies.
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#9 Old 07-21-2003, 09:27 PM
 
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I didn't know there was a difference either.

I thought they were Garbanzos if you were from California



p.s - someone needs to clue Arrowhead Mills in. I just got a few bags in mail order. The label says:

CHICKPEAS

(Garbanzos)
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But they ARE the same! Aren't they? The only difference is linguistic -- in Italian they are "Ceci" (whence "chick"-peas); Garbanzo is a Spanish word.



Or so I think. and I could be completely wrong ---
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I only ever knew them as chick peas until recently. Then I was at the store one day and could only find garbanzo beans. I always thought garbanzo beans were some other bean entirely
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I love chick peas, not so much garbanzo beans...

but they are the same thing? How wierd is that?
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oh man. so weird that you bumped this thread! i was reading the info and thought, "wow! i had no idea they were different!" and then when someone mentioned the tiny ones, i recalled a soup i once had with them and was trying to remember what they were called in that soup...and then i saw that i had posted on this thread six years ago, on my old account (vegancherrypie)! so weird, haha.
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I love chick peas, not so much garbanzo beans...

but they are the same thing? How wierd is that?



its not very weird at all. lots of things are known by different names in different places... flapjacks, muffins, eggplants and aubergines, courgettes and zuchinni, corriander leaf and cilantro....
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i think he/she actually meant, "how weird is that i like chickpeas and not garbanzo beans?"



something i don't quite understand...
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i think he/she actually meant, "how weird is that i like chickpeas and not garbanzo beans?"



something i don't quite understand...



yeah, i'm bewildered about how that could be anything but psychological if they are eating the same thing... maybe they're mixing chickpeas up with pigeon peas, which are a different thing.
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They are different or the same, depending.



Marketers of one other the other often label them as one or the other with the other in parenthesis.



They are both the same species.



In the US both words are used interchangeably for either bean. I suppose in Italy they may only recognize a handful of related cultivars as being a true garbanzo.



There are literally 100's of thousands of cultivars of Cicer arietinum. From tiny quick cooking ones (15 minutes without soaking first) to gigantic long-cooking ones (1.5 to 2.5 hours, the only ones sold is US supermarkets), to every size in-between and cooking time in between. There are also purple ones, orange ones, black ones, brown ones, mottled ones, near-white ones, green-ripe ones, and kinds that will pop like popcorn.



exactly. The distinction is mostly linguistic, so obviously you'll associate whatever name you use with the particular cultivars in your region. If you took a "garbanzo" from a region that called them that and planted it where people grow chickpeas, the result would likely just be referred to as a "chickpea" that looks different. It's like comparing Jersey tomatoes to Hanover tomatoes. Taxonomically there is no distinction.
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... and don't even get me started on cici beans!!!

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#19 Old 09-28-2009, 12:18 PM
 
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I didn't say that I didn't like garbanzo beans, I just meant that I like chic peas better... possibly because of the size??... I like thin French fries, and not thick ones, but they are the same thing... so maybe that is it?

Like I originally said, wierd huh?
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