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#1 Old 07-30-2016, 08:40 PM
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We had a neighborhood barbeque, and the thing I brought was raw vegan brownies, with raw vegan chocolate chip cookie dough inside. They were A-MAZ-ING-LY scrupdillylicious. However, the people there were most decidedly NOT vegans, much less raw vegans. I'm afraid if I say something like, "Delicious raw vegan brownies, huh." They might look at me like I have 2 heads or something. So I just kept quiet. Should have I said something, or not? If so, what should I say?
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#2 Old 07-30-2016, 09:53 PM
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We had a neighborhood barbeque, and the thing I brought was raw vegan brownies, with raw vegan chocolate chip cookie dough inside. They were A-MAZ-ING-LY scrupdillylicious. However, the people there were most decidedly NOT vegans, much less raw vegans. I'm afraid if I say something like, "Delicious raw vegan brownies, huh." They might look at me like I have 2 heads or something. So I just kept quiet. Should have I said something, or not? If so, what should I say?
The FDA advises people to not eat raw dough: http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/Cons.../ucm508450.htm

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#3 Old 07-30-2016, 11:01 PM
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The FDA advises people to not eat raw dough: http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/Cons.../ucm508450.htm

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Good thing there wasn't any flour in it. Oatmeal is my friend.

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Good thing there wasn't any flour in it. Oatmeal is my friend.
Plus let's be real, the biggest danger from eating raw dough is the eggs. Flour is secondary.

What I usually do is if some one says Yum, great brownies, these are different or who brought these, etc, I say "and guess what, they are healthy, too! Vegan, so no cholesterol, and far less fat than other brownies. And so easy because there is no baking involved!'"

I would probably not say "raw" because omnis associate that word with gross rotting raw meat.

PS, those sound delish!
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Did anyone eat them? I usually wait til AFTER people try my goodies, then mention they are vegan lol. Of course, it doesn't work at my place of employment as they know I am vegan, but I will usually tell them there is nothing "weird" in there as so many people assume vegan products have weird ingredients no one eats.
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Plus let's be real, the biggest danger from eating raw dough is the eggs. Flour is secondary.

I'm not being anti-flour or anything! If you read the FDA's bulletin, it's not just the eggs that make raw flour a potential foodborne illness hazard:

"People often understand the dangers of eating raw dough due to the presence of raw eggs and the associated risk with Salmonella. However, consumers should be aware that there are additional risks associated with the consumption of raw dough, such as particularly harmful strains of E. coli in a product like flour."

“Flour is derived from a grain that comes directly from the field and typically is not treated to kill bacteria,” says Leslie Smoot, Ph.D., a senior advisor in FDA’s Office of Food Safety and a specialist in the microbiological safety of processed foods. So if an animal heeds the call of nature in the field, bacteria from the animal waste could contaminate the grain, which is then harvested and milled into flour."
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I'm not being anti-flour or anything! If you read the FDA's bulletin, it's not just the eggs that make raw flour a potential foodborne illness hazard:

"People often understand the dangers of eating raw dough due to the presence of raw eggs and the associated risk with Salmonella. However, consumers should be aware that there are additional risks associated with the consumption of raw dough, such as particularly harmful strains of E. coli in a product like flour."

“Flour is derived from a grain that comes directly from the field and typically is not treated to kill bacteria,” says Leslie Smoot, Ph.D., a senior advisor in FDA’s Office of Food Safety and a specialist in the microbiological safety of processed foods. So if an animal heeds the call of nature in the field, bacteria from the animal waste could contaminate the grain, which is then harvested and milled into flour."
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Yes, I read it, I am not discounting it. I don't eat raw flour. The part about "animals heeding the call of nature" in the fields cracked me up, though, since the source is likely either factory farmed animal waste/blood fertilizers used in the fields, or runoff from these "farms".
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Personally I do not think there is any particular etiquette to informing people you are serving them delicious vegan brownies or other treats ^_^ The only thing I can think of is if someone has a food allergy (nuts, soy, whatever) that you mention potential allergens, but no one I've ever known to bring cookies or brownies to a workplace or potluck seems to think it's necessary to tell everyone "hey just so you know, there's copious amounts of sugar, butter and animal byproducts in these things!"
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So if an animal heeds the call of nature in the field, bacteria from the animal waste could contaminate the grain, which is then harvested and milled into flour."
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Any farmer spreads cow/chicken/pig poop on the plants through the use of fertilizer. Big bags that say "manure," in fact, in gardening/farming, manure is essential to feeding plants.
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Any farmer spreads cow/chicken/pig poop on the plants through the use of fertilizer. Big bags that say "manure," in fact, in gardening/farming, manure is essential to feeding plants.
Not all farmers use manure; there are synthetic nitrogen fertilizers: http://extension.psu.edu/agronomy-guide/cm/sec2/sec28 . Nevertheless, some farmers do use manure, and that appears to be part of the reason why the FDA is warning consumers not to eat raw flour / dough.

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Yesterday was our community "picnic"....which means BBQ.

I never go, cuz I just don't want to deal with it.

I know all the neighbors, but charred animal flesh wafting about is not my thing.

I stayed inside and had vegan sloppy joes.

And yes, they were yummy!!!
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We had a neighborhood barbeque, and the thing I brought was raw vegan brownies, with raw vegan chocolate chip cookie dough inside. They were A-MAZ-ING-LY scrupdillylicious. However, the people there were most decidedly NOT vegans, much less raw vegans. I'm afraid if I say something like, "Delicious raw vegan brownies, huh." They might look at me like I have 2 heads or something. So I just kept quiet. Should have I said something, or not? If so, what should I say?
Honestly, next time I would say something if I were you. Don't be ashamed to be yourself. People will admire you for it.
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Vegan brownies sound delicious! I'd think you'd only need to mention ingredients if you were bringing a dish that contained something that would be dangerous (if certain people were allergic, etc.) I once served a quorn "chicken" salad at a bbq, and the meat eaters were devouring it. I asked them after if they new that they just enjoyed a 100% vegetarian meal. :-)
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Unless there are common allergens in the fo od you bring, I wouldn't even mention it u ntil after! But it IS a good idea to ment ion it, can't tell you how many people I'v e heard say, "I had a vegan cake/burger/brownie/etc one time and it was delicious..." It's good because if they like it, they'll see there is deliciousness beyond animal product s!
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Vegan brownies sound delicious! I'd think you'd only need to mention ingredients if you were bringing a dish that contained something that would be dangerous (if certain people were allergic, etc.) I once served a quorn "chicken" salad at a bbq, and the meat eaters were devouring it. I asked them after if they new that they just enjoyed a 100% vegetarian meal. :-)
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Unless there are common allergens in the fo od you bring, I wouldn't even mention it u ntil after! But it IS a good idea to ment ion it, can't tell you how many people I'v e heard say, "I had a vegan cake/burger/brownie/etc one time and it was delicious..." It's good because if they like it, they'll see there is deliciousness beyond animal product s!
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I tell everyone that the chocolate chip cookies, the sloppy joes, the miso soup, the potato salad, and the peanut zoodles I made are vegan. If someone refuses to try them based on that word, too bad for them and more leftovers for me! It's the people who are kinda sorta thinking that maybe vegan stuff is possibly cool who I'm after. When the refusers see the curious people trying the food they all know is vegan, that will do more to adjust their thinking than any trickery I pull. I usually write out all the ingredients on a card and put it in front of the dish. This benefits people with allergies, and it's a ready partial answer when people ask for the recipe. Because they ALWAYS do.
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I don't have much experience with food allergies, but if someone has some sort of food sensitivity which could make them somewhat sick or worse, they would bring it up to everyone at an affair which had lots of home-made food with no lists of ingredients, wouldn't they? I certainly would.
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