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#1 Old 12-13-2011, 03:55 AM
 
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#2 Old 12-13-2011, 04:08 AM
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The bible (OT) is anti-gay.
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However, the statement does go on to note, "Likewise, there is no scriptural support for demeaning or mistreating anyone for reason of his or her sexual orientation."

The scriptual penalty is death though, isn't it?
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I won't be dropping cash into bibles, either then.
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I wont be shopping there anymore. I was a regular customer as a vintage collector.

Im always confused why Christians use the bible to defend their bigotry towards homosexuals. Theres nothing in these fictitious books even about homosexuality...
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I am sorry but the Bible is very clear on its not a Christian behavior however, its not a Christian behavior to to judge people. I am still donating to them to help the poor families have a Christmas and to feed them.
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I am sorry but the Bible is very clear on its not a Christian behavior however, its not a Christian behavior to to judge people. I am still donating to them to help the poor families have a Christmas and to feed them.

Very clear? Really? What part? Do u follow EVERYTHING the bible says is right and wrong?

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I'd be interested in that information too (what the Bible says about homosexuality). The New Testament in particular. Not that I'm a Christian, just something I'm curious about.

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I'd be interested in that information too (what the Bible says about homosexuality).

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New International Version (©1984)
"'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

New Living Translation (©2007)
"Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin.
English Standard Version (©2001)
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
'You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Never have sexual intercourse with a man as with a woman. It is disgusting.
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman: it is abomination.
American King James Version
You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
American Standard Version
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Douay-Rheims Bible
Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, because it is an abomination.
Darby Bible Translation
And thou shalt not lie with mankind as one lieth with a woman: it is an abomination.
English Revised Version
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Webster's Bible Translation
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
World English Bible
"'You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman. That is detestable. Young's Literal Translation
And with a male thou dost not lie as one lieth with a woman; abomination it is.

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The New Testament in particular. Not that I'm a Christian, just something I'm curious about.

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I am sorry but the Bible is very clear on its not a Christian behavior however, its not a Christian behavior to to judge people. I am still donating to them to help the poor families have a Christmas and to feed them.

For what its worth I would donate to them too PVL.

They do a lot more good works than most people know.
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They can bite my queer ass.
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My father has signed up to be a bell-ringer one day this week. But he's one of the most anti-gay people I know.

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They can bite my queer ass.



I know I already told you about this Renee, but there was a guy who sat across the salvation army bell ringer with a sign that said something to the effect of "They hate me. I'm gay." With an arrow pointing to the Kettle.


Well, he has since grown quite the following and now there are 5+ sign holders at my local store. While I can feel kinda bad for the poor bell ringers who are the brunt of signs, it's a necessary message, people should know to whom their money goes.

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I am sorry but the Bible is very clear on its not a Christian behavior however, its not a Christian behavior to to judge people. I am still donating to them to help the poor families have a Christmas and to feed them.

The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesnt mean God doesnt love heterosexuals, its just that they need more supervision. ~Lynn Lavner

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^- To be fair, the bible verses quoted are anti-male homosexuality. Lesbianism seems to be okay with God.
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^- To be fair, the bible verses quoted are anti-male homosexuality. Lesbianism seems to be okay with God.

In Judaism lesbianism goes against the modesty laws, even though there is nothing explicitly against lesbianism anywhere.


So maybe G-d just hates men.

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God don't hate no one it just the lifestyle that is hateing.
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Eh, I can't think of anything a'tall in New Testament, but especially on that topic of males, there's Genesis 38:8-10 "Judah said to Onan, 'Go in to your brothers wife, and perform your duty as a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother.' Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brothers wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was displeasing in the sight of the LORD; so He took his life also." -- upon which Catholic brains of the Middle Ages founded quite a bit of of elaborate theology.

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God don't hate no one it just the lifestyle that is hateing.

Good for him.
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God don't hate no one it just the lifestyle that is hateing.

Good thing I don't believe in him and his magical son! I can't STAND hate!

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Good thing I don't believe in him and his magical son! I can't STAND hate!

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Good thing I don't believe in him and his magical son! I can't STAND hate!

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Good thing I don't believe in him and his magical son! I can't STAND hate!

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The problem with using Leviticus as support that the Bible is anti-homosexuality is that Leviticus also describes eating shellfish, mixing different types of thread and so on to abominations in addition to homosexuality. Many claim that these rules became no longer applicable after Jesus died for the sins of humankind.

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^- To be fair, the bible verses quoted are anti-male homosexuality. Lesbianism seems to be okay with God.

Not only does lesbianism seem to be okay with God based on those quotes, it seems to be mandatory. He apparently wants the men straight and the women lesbian.

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Good thing I don't believe in him and his magical son! I can't STAND hate!

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The problem with using Leviticus as support that the Bible is anti-homosexuality is that Leviticus also describes eating shellfish, mixing different types of thread and so on to abominations in addition to homosexuality. Many claim that these rules became no longer applicable after Jesus died for the sins of humankind.

Yes you are correct, I believe that people are using that verse to slam gays and lesbians in this modern age and in Matthew 7 it says don't judge no one unless you want people to judge you like you judged them.
As someone asked me do I believe in most of the Bible yes I do, do I live most of the Bible I try too but since we are only human we are all sinners. There are no sin greater then another in God's eyes.
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Good thing I don't believe in him and his magical son! I can't STAND hate!

Really? I hate lots of behaviors. people hurting animals, people discriminating etc.


But anyways, there is no need to donate to them. There are many organizations that help the poor. So there are many good choices. it is not like everything they get is used to feed the homeless, i wouldn't want to support the organization itself
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