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#1 Old 10-12-2004, 11:06 AM
 
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#2 Old 10-12-2004, 11:12 AM
 
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Can you give the real url?

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Can you give the real url?

I hate to use tinyurl because I never know where I'm being sent... could be some porn site or a website known for having spyware for all I know. :00!



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Booo! I understand wanting to make the public aware that veg. food is widely available. However, putting a "stamp of approval" on McD's pseudo-food leaves a bad taste in my mouth. (ba dum dum)

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I really don't know how I feel about this.



I guess it's great if it helps people make non-animal product choices, but McDonalds is so nasty!

Then again, it was trying the BK veggie (before I was veg) that got me off beefburgers before I even contemplated becoming veg*n. I thought they tasted better, and I liked the fact that they were healthier, so hopefully the McDonalds options will inspire other people in the same way!

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I think this is a good thing. It's another step toward making vegetarianism more mainstream. With all the health-conscious trend in our society today, I think people will go for the veggie products. I give this a thumbs up and hope that the veggie products make it the US soon.
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I think it's great also! Definetely makes vegetarianism seem more accessable to the fast food masses.
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Is this going to be only in the U.K.? It's nice to have real veggie products at McD's, but what about fat? I'm sure the Veggie options will be much lower in fat, but muffins and stuff like that are loaded with fat. Good for McDonald's, though.



That being said, I'm never eating at McDonald's. Even if the Veggie options do make it to North America.
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I don't know if I like a veg*n approval on McStockyards, but hey, if they're starting to offer something healthy (will it be?), I can't deny that it's a step in the right direction. Who knows, the Quorn burgers might be so popular that people will stop eating the dead cow ones.



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Actually, since this is both about something good, and something bad, can we get a new smiley made up of both the smiley and ?



Perhaps a dancing, vomitting asparagus?







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#11 Old 10-12-2004, 01:27 PM
 
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Bottomline McDonald's is a business. If Veggie Logo generates more sales, they will expand the concept. If not the concept will be dropped. Only time will tell.



Here is another related thread:

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I won't even step foot inside McDonalds. Don't get me started..!
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GRR ARG thats just wrong, booooo to the vegetarian society.

I'm actually surprised they got approval. I was reading the vegan societies business link up thing, where they'll allow you to but a vegan society logo on your product/service and they have so many restrictions on it, such as the good/service cannot be produced in the same environment as meat products/services. I'd assume the vegetarian society would have similar restrictions, especially for such a high profile businesses as McDonalds.
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I won't even step foot inside McDonalds. Don't get me started..!

Wouldn't be because they lied about the fries would it-?..Wups..gettin' ya started...heh-he.. Hey..I wonder if they're telling the truth or not this time..*ponders*....
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mcdonalds have gotten one thing right, and that is that if you get something approved by the vegetarian society, then that will make vegetarians mor elikely to buy the product.



However, mcdonalds have made a crucial error, and that is that in order to attract vegetarian customers, one must make a veggie burger that isn't absolutely rubbish. For anyone who hasn't tried the quorn premiere, then you aren't missing out on much, except for an assault on your tastebuds that will leave them, crippled, and gasping for a drink to wash the awful taste away. The quorn premiere is the height of culinary sh*tness, and represents some of the worst vegetarian food i have encountered in a public eating establishment.
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Loki do you like non McD Quorn burgers?



I think its an interesting development. The UK VegSoc has given Burger King's Veggie Wopper its approval for at least 4-5 years. So why is McDonalds a different entity? They trade with the same sort of menu. Over the last couple of years the trend is really moving away from these fast food places. In introducing vegsoc approved menu items, the change is the most important part. It will make veggie food less odd, and make the posibility of proper veg only food places a much more viable option.
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why the hell is is called a McQuorn? Is it made of quinoa and corn?
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Quorn is a mushroom derivative, and has gained popularity in the UK and parts of Europe over the past 13+ years. Quorn burgers, sausages, roasts and ready made meals are very popular. Read more at www.quorn.com
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why the hell is is called a McQuorn? Is it made of quinoa and corn?

Mmmm quinoa and corn sounds like a good mix! ...but no, Quorn's a brand name.



I think making vegetarian food more accessible is a great thing indeed.
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I think it's awesome! I just wish McDonald's in the US would offer some veg options.



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For anyone who hasn't tried the quorn premiere, then you aren't missing out on much, except for an assault on your tastebuds that will leave them, crippled, and gasping for a drink to wash the awful taste away.



Maybe that's all part of the plan, drinks are virtually pure profit.

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If the word vegetarian is seen next to the word McDonalds, then the veg message will reach more eyes. Sure, it will involve a blood drenched nazi-Clown, but it will still reach more people. Maybe this is a step toward making veg*nism more mainstream. If it is, then great. If not, well, at least a few veggies will wander into a McTexasChainsawMassacre and go, "Oh, now I remember why I'm veg*n!" and become more committed.







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Wait, you're saying that gray, cardboard-like stuff they've always sold is *meat*?
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I think the "seal of approval" thing is helpful as long as the Veg Society has a serious commitment to enforcing standards. So many times things say "great for vegetarians!" on the menu, and there is no regulation (I don't think) about what this means. These items could have beef stock, etc. in them, and the faster the restaraunt, the less likely you will be able to find anyone who can tell what is really in the veg*n option. With the approval, no one has to wonder if there are other things in the meal that are derived from meat. Well, kind of. I guess the only bad thing I see about this is that maybe people won't realize that Quorn has eggs.



I think an important indication here is the power of the consumer. I just learned when watching the "Super Size Me" movie that McD's is phasing out the supersize option. The veg*n option is just another step in a healthier direction. Not because McD's cares, but b/c consumers are beginning to demand it. I find that, in itself, very encouraging.
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Actually, since this is both about something good, and something bad, can we get a new smiley made up of both the smiley and ?



Perhaps a dancing, vomitting asparagus?







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I need a new smiley to describe what I feel about that Rev,

maybe a laughing, vomiting disimbodied smiley face head?


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Loki do you like non McD Quorn burgers?



Not really. besides, quorn is the kind of thing you eat at home, not when you eat a meal outside of home. And you should see the red sauce that they put on these things. It is absolutely nasty.
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I think it's a bad thing really-it's like-MuckDonalds and and the veggie society? i supose its a bad thing for some and maybe in a way it is a good thing in the way that non-veggies might try the quorn burger and that. i just feel, i dunno, kinda let down by the veggie society, if that makes sense.
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I think the "seal of approval" thing is helpful as long as the Veg Society has a serious commitment to enforcing standards. So many times things say "great for vegetarians!" on the menu, and there is no regulation (I don't think) about what this means. These items could have beef stock, etc. in them, and the faster the restaraunt, the less likely you will be able to find anyone who can tell what is really in the veg*n option. With the approval, no one has to wonder if there are other things in the meal that are derived from meat. Well, kind of. I guess the only bad thing I see about this is that maybe people won't realize that Quorn has eggs.



I think an important indication here is the power of the consumer. I just learned when watching the "Super Size Me" movie that McD's is phasing out the supersize option. The veg*n option is just another step in a healthier direction. Not because McD's cares, but b/c consumers are beginning to demand it. I find that, in itself, very encouraging.



You need not worry, the vegetarian society has its own set of standards, which mcdonalds must adhere to in order for them to use the vegetarian society's logo. This means no meat, no risks of contamination, and also, all eggs must be free range. And don't worry, because I think that most vegans in the Uk are aware that quorn contains eggs. The vegetarian society is a little more lax than the vegan society, so they'll approve stuff mad ein the same environment as meat products, as long as good measures are made to ensure that no cross-contamination takes place.



And mcdonalds have had a veggie burger at its Uk outlets since 1994. This, however was replaced with the quorn premiere. I see it as a step back, since the old veggie burger was pretty much vegan if you left the mayo, and also because the old veggie burger was quite good, whilst the quorn premiere is rank. McDonalds isn't reaching out to vegetarians. It is recognising that vegetarianism is in a state of decline, and has reformulated its marketing to no longer view vegetarians as a group to which to cater to, but rather to merge vegetarians with low fat eaters, and cater towards the vegetarian/lowfat group rather than vegetarians.



In the Uk, vegetarianism hasn't got anywhere to go. There's none of the "get the word spread" malarkey. We had the entire 1990's to do that, and now everyone is aware of what a vegetarian is, and it still remains that vegetarians are a minority group which one must cater towards. If you were to go into an eating establishment in the Uk, and they didn't have at least one vegetarian dish, then the customers would want to know why. Most cooks are aware of vegetarianism, and restauranteers, in their menu planning, will always take account that it is very likely that a vegetarian or fifteen will come along at some point.



At mcdonalds in the UK, the fries are vegetarian. None of the beef fat malarkey - These fries are vegetarian, and mcdonalds will and do say it.



Anyway, the vegetarian society did give BK approval for their veggie burge rin the 90's, so I don't really see how this is different.
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McDonalds isn't reaching out to vegetarians. It is recognising that vegetarianism is in a state of decline, and has reformulated its marketing to no longer view vegetarians as a group to which to cater to, but rather to merge vegetarians with low fat eaters, and cater towards the vegetarian/lowfat group rather than vegetarians.



Cynically speaking, I think you're possibly right and Macca's are simply adapting to survive. However, if this kind of adaptation results in customers putting less bits of dead cow into their mouths in the long term, then that is a good thing. Having the Veggie Society's label tied in with the Macca's logo is huge exposure for vegetarianism and if the worst that can happen is our demographic gets merged into the low-fat one in the general public's eyes, I say what the heck, I'm willing to risk that because it's the cow's I'm trying to save, not my vegetarian label.



I live in Australia and I haven't been into a Macca's for more than 15 years. But if they introduced that quorn burger here, I would definately give it a go.
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I live in Australia and I haven't been into a Macca's for more than 15 years. But if they introduced that quorn burger here, I would definately give it a go.



Some Maccas had a (lacto-ovo) veggie burger here just over 10 years ago; it was basically a salad on a roll with mayonnaise (no fake/substitute meat). The only Maccas I ever found it at was Wentworthville (along the Great Western highway) in Sydney's west...... other Maccas may have had it.

At the time I was lacto-ovo (among other things) so I gave it a try, and it wasn't bad.
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